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Just to clarify, if this still eludes you:

I am anti-religion, but pro free-speech. I love free speech so much, I actually tolerate the existence of religion.

Hate speech itself is not something subjective.

Offense, or taking offense, however, is. Different things are offensive to different people. With such a plethora of worldviews, it is very likely that everyone, at any point in time, may believe something that is actually offensive to another person. The standards of what is offensive will therefore vary. An Ancient Greek would not be offended if someone called Apollo gay -- since homosexuality is not articulated within their worldviews as a 'sin' (another Abrahamic religion concept). A lesbian may be offended if she is called unnatural. A Jew will be offended if the holocaust is denied. A Muslim will be offended if Allah is depicted as gay. A Christian will be offended if Jesus is presented as the lover of Magdalene, and so forth. You are free to believe any of these. The moment you start throwing pamphlets outside the doors of the group that you hold your beliefs against, and the moment this action can be interpreted as an attempt to stir up hatred, that's when your free speech ends and transforms into hate speech.

And... here we go:

A preacher whose preaching led to the radicalization of Muslims that eventually killed, was convicted (among others) for hate speech and thrown in prison for 10 years. Served him right.

A group of Muslims protesting against the Danish cartoons were jailed for 6 years each, for inciting hatred and murder of infidels. Good riddance.

Another preacher, born to an evangelical family but converted to Islam (his birthname was Trevor William Forrest!), that actively encouraged his flock to travel outside the UK and murder infidels, was also convicted of inciting hatred, and jailed for 9 years. An evangelical Jamaican converted to Islam? You can't make it up just how stupid people can be on this planet. This guy needs a psychiatrist quick!

 

Religions are a disease. And I am happy that I live in a country where I can make that statement and not be prosecuted for it. That's what free speech is. It also is the same measure that forces me to accept that people are bound to have some very ridiculous views. That's terribly sad, of course, but as long as they do not actuate their beliefs into practice, I guess I am okay with it -- because that's the principle of freedom of speech and of freedom of belief and religion. 


Want to explore the subject of why Allah is gay? Go ahead and write an inane book on how an ill-defined deity is somehow engaging in sexual practices, and try to defend why this thesis is a valid proposition rather than just a ridiculous slogan for diminishing people of another religion, thereby inciting hatred. Go ahead.

Last edited by Helloplite - on 10 April 2018