The American family is falling apart

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o_O.Q said:

sundin13 said:

1) Stop dodging the question and answer it. If my assumptions were wrong, tell me that they were wrong. Don't play coy. Do you believe we live in a rape culture?

2) And do you think that those other statistics are a representative sample?

3) To quote your own links:

"To understand rape culture better, first we need to understand that it’s not necessarily a society or group of people that outwardly promotes rape (although it could be).

When we talk about rape culture, we’re discussing something more implicit than that. We’re talking about cultural practices (that, yes, we commonly engage in together as a society) that excuse or otherwise tolerate sexual violence.

We’re talking about the way that we collectively think about rape.

More often than not, it’s situations in which sexual assault, rape, and general violence are ignored, trivialized, normalized, or made into jokes."

Nothing in that definition states anything which contradicts Rol's point. The understood possibility that every male has a reasonable likelihood of raping you is not fundamental to the definition of rape culture, and as such the idea does not hold any argumentative power in this context. To bring it up shows a fundamental misunderstanding and misapplication of the concept.
 

" And do you think that those other statistics are a representative sample?"

representative of what? the population?

 

"To understand rape culture better, first we need to understand that it’s not necessarily a society or group of people that outwardly promotes rape (although it could be)."

to quote my own links

"The argument we make is that while women who have been raped endure the lasting effects of psychological and emotional harm, the problem of rape is not a “woman’s problem.” It is squarely a man’s problem. In the wake of recent horror stories about men in power who abuse women — like Harvey Weinstein — we offer some of our findings on rape culture and some suggestions for men to make change."

 

well shit look at that, a contradiction, now i suppose one could ask how would we decide which holds more weight?

well to me the obvious solution would be to look for trends and see which stance is more common... and overwhelmingly the problem is identified as men... i mean i could post a whole bunch of links demonstrating this but i think you already know this is the case

 

"Nothing in that definition states anything which contradicts Rol's point. The understood possibility that every male has a reasonable likelihood of raping you is not fundamental to the definition of rape culture"

first off that was not an official definition... that was one woman giving a response to people criticising the term "rape culture"

secondly you cherry picked one small part of what i posted when there are numerous other quotes that contradict your assertion... 

and jesus christ man in the exact same article you are quoting from they state these

"he ubiquity of street harassment – and how victims are told that they’re “overreacting” when they call it out."

"1-in-5 women and 1-in-71 men having reported experiencing rape"

are examples of rape culture

 

edit: i'm a little confused though, why are you trying so hard to absolve men for causing this problem?

Issue is we're calling this "rape culture", when it's really just part of human nature. If it wasn't it wouldn't be prevalent across various culturally  disparate societies. "Street harassment" is really a modern day, first world problem where cat calling is now an impetus for laws banning it in western countries.