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Aeolus451 said:
Jaicee said:

The premise behind public welfare systems is a socialistic one: that it is the responsibility of society to provide for human needs and well-being. The prevailing application that the modern nation-state might provide thereof is more a paternalistic one than a socialist one (being as the government and population exist as separate entities, in contrast to say in your ancient hunting and gathering communities), but that does not detract from the fact the principle of distribution of resources according to need is still valued by human beings to one degree or another.

Incidentally, in my previous reply, I supplied a link and an additional explanation for my opinion. It would be appreciated if you would try and do the same going forward instead of just repeating unsubstantiated claims again and again as though the repetition renders them more true.

No. That is simply socialists trying to take credit of good old fashioned human decency. Those programs were not created by socialists. I'm not gonna take your source seriously. You can argue against my points on your own. 

No, it's socialist. Human decency is me CHOOSING to give my money to help those in need. I wouldn't do that because I dont believe in it, so instead the government takes my money in the form of taxes and gives it away. When the collective defines what your so called "human decency" means on behalf of everyone and then enforces it through redistribution of tax money it's socialism.