the-pi-guy said:
it means that your choices matter it means that if you fear being attacked you can choose to be passive and take no precautions https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2010/feb/19/blame-the-rapist This is because even a lot of legitimate rape victims blame themselves. You don't see that kind of blame in other crimes. When a house is broken into, how often do you see people blame the house owner and blame them for not having greater security? If I were to steal your car, is it your fault for not taking more precautions or is it my fault for doing it? When it comes to rape, historically it's often never been the fault of the man. "Boys will be boys." This is about ensuring that the person who actually did the crime takes the responsibility. or alternatively you can choose as the women of india to take precautions such as equipping yourself with a firearm to shoot any attackers dead No amount of precautions would eliminate every rape. Or even most. Most rapes aren't by angry attackers that make the announcement in time to get their gun ready. "the ban was put into place because feminists argued that this objectified women" I don't see this claim anywhere in the article. "what the fuck" I don't consider her a feminist.
In general yes. If a women wants to be a grid girl, that's her right. If a man wants to be a grid boy, that should be his right too. |
"This is because even a lot of legitimate rape victims blame themselves. You don't see that kind of blame in other crimes. "
you can say that but its not true
if a car is left unlocked and its stolen or a home then the owner is blamed to some extent for their choices
"When it comes to rape, historically it's often never been the fault of the man. "Boys will be boys.""
not that i even believe this to be the case(women despite feminist nonsense were treated in many ways better than men, for example, men being expected to fight and die to protect women and children) but again i'm talking about present day 2018
are you really saying that if a man is caught raping a woman that our society just pats him on the back and says "boys will be boys"?
"No amount of precautions would eliminate every rape. "
which is the case with every crime... life unfortunately is not fair, which is why you encourage people to be active and take on as much responsibility as they can even though ultimately something bad may happen to them
at least if they are taking precautions then the likelihood that something bad will happen fall much lower
"I don't see this claim anywhere in the article. "
"Employing women solely in a decorative fashion, to adorn and praise successful men is nothing other than problematic. "
" But any job that is awarded simply on looks and that doesn’t really require much skill apart from evading gropers and permanently smiling, seems pretty degrading. "
i mean... that's what the whole articles were about... that's what the whole issue is about... women holding these positions is supposedly objectification so their freedom to choose the positions must be taken away
"In general yes."
but the thing you're not getting is that people use the idea that men and women should be treated equally as justification for taking away women's rights in circumstances where there is inequality in the way men and women are presented
which is just plain stupid because men and women are different in many ways which invariably leads to different types of representation in different areas
the problem with current day feminism is that the underlying idea of equality has shifted from being about rights to being about outcomes, which ironically can only end up hurting women
and yes i agree with you that women and men should be free to pursue whatever they want... but this will consequently result in different outcomes which conflicts with the idea of equality of outcomes
