the-pi-guy said:
"as far as i know patriarchy refers to the oppression men exert onto women" And oppression is a bad thing to get rid of? "...but, that's exactly what they are about" To be honest, I don't consider that victimizing. Is telling people about the statistics that black people have a harder time to get a job, victimizing? Is telling people about the statistics that black people are disproportionately shot unarmed, victimizing? Is news reporting about a black man being shot, victimizing? I don't think so, those things are facts. "i'm talking about the present where the fear of islam is so pervasive that people can capitalise on it like this" Just because people are afraid of something, doesn't mean there is actually something to be afraid of. Thousands of years, people told stories of krakens and dragons. That doesn't mean any of it is a reality. "as i said his ideas are not uncommon in academic circles presently" They aren't all that common either. |
"And oppression is a bad thing to get rid of?"
so you've conceded that i was right then? and yes attempting to get rid of something imaginary is problematic as the grid girls who lost their jobs because they were supposedly being oppressed understand all too well
" I don't think so, those things are facts. "
if plainly stating the statistics/facts in a proper context was all that was happening then i wouldn't have a problem
for example, you yourself stated that many of the black men shot recently were in confrontations with black police
because of the way these incidents have been framed, most people are unaware of that fact
"Just because people are afraid of something, doesn't mean there is actually something to be afraid of. "
oh... so islamic terrorism isn't happening now
"They aren't all that common either"
in fields like transgender studies they are, which is why i made my original point
