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o_O.Q on 07 April 2018
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the-pi-guy said:
o_O.Q said:

You literally gave them to me.  

None of these are actually happening. They are just scary things to make white men think that the left hates them.  

1.) "women you have been oppressed by men for centuries so you need to tear down the patriarchy"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/07/technology-sexist-society-even-worse-women-potential

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/out-the-darkness/201208/why-men-oppress-women

http://nomas.org/understanding-patriarchy-and-mens-power/

 

2.)""blacks you have been oppressed by centuries by white people so you need to fear and hate them""

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/11/chokehold-police-black-men-paul-butler-race-america

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/2017-is-the-year-of-black-fear_us_594c2393e4b0f078efd97fed

http://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2017/10/16/do-efforts-to-help-minorities-actually-produce-any-positive-results

 

3.)"What exactly is your point?  "

my point was that leftist advocacy for islam is common and that islam does appear to be interpreted in a way that motivates violence more than other religions

 

"They are individuals.

There are 1.5 billion individuals that are Muslim.  They are going to have 1.5 billion different opinions about every single thing.  "

but what unites them is their religion which is far less splintered than something like christianity

 

4.)"Not white policemen.  Many of the people who shot a black man were also black men."

i'm aware of that but the media has been pushing the idea that its been largely white men oppressing black men unfairly

which to some degree i think may be valid, but its been overblown and facts like the one you posted here are being glossed over

 

5.)"That dude isn't a biologist.  Just because he says something crazy doesn't mean that's a normally held belief.  "

supposedly he's a historian of biology which is doubtful but regardless my point was that he's an educator for transgender issues and his ideas are not uncommon for people in his field

 

"Just because there's a "normal", doesn't mean there's no room for people who don't fit that category.  Just because Jim only has 1 leg doesn't mean he's not human.  "

completely true but we don't use outliers to define the whole though and that's my point

1.)  What do you think the patriarchy is that is being mentioned in the first articles?  What do you think they want to change?

2.)  Those articles aren't about being afraid of white people, or to victimize black people.  Not anymore than articles about cancer victimize people who don't have cancer.  The whole point of these things is to get empathy from white people.  

3.)  Historically, not really.  Christianity has been used to justify wars in the past.  Even today it is used to justify attacking abortion clinics.  The biggest issue with a lot of muslim majority countries is their governments.  Just compare Iran in 1979 to now.  They had wildly more freedoms back then.  

4.)  Even supposedly liberal media does plenty of racist things.  Take welfare, even the "Clinton News Network" disproportionately shows blacks as being poor and on welfare, even though most people on welfare are white.  

5.)  He's 1 dude.  There's also plenty of people who believe the Earth is flat.  Doesn't mean I waste time on that kind of nonsense.  Gender is socially constructed by definition, sex is not.  

"What do you think the patriarchy is that is being mentioned in the first articles?  What do you think they want to change?"

as far as i know patriarchy refers to the oppression men exert onto women

 

"Those articles aren't about being afraid of white people, or to victimize black people."

...but, that's exactly what they are about

 

" Historically, not really.  Christianity has been used to justify wars in the past. "

i'm talking about the present where the fear of islam is so pervasive that people can capitalise on it like this

 

"He's 1 dude."

as i said his ideas are not uncommon in academic circles presently