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HigHurtenflurst on 07 April 2018
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contestgamer said:
HigHurtenflurst said:

Exactly, and always should be.

It's no doubt horrible to be arrested for something like this but there should always be an investigation. There can't be an automatic get out of jail just because the person you killed was in your home. It's the intent to kill that matters, and as far as I am concerned intent to steal someones life should always be considered beyond intent to steal someones possessions.

If someone breaks into a home it's perfectly reasonable to deter them (eg brandish a knife, point a gun) and if that person advances on you or threatens you in any way it's perfectly reasonable to defend yourself. If in the process of this you kill the burglar then so be it, it's not murder and I don't think it's manslaughter (not sure on the definition of manslaughter but I imagine there has to be negligence) so there should be no charge.

There has to be an investigation to find out what happened, you can't just take the word of the survivor.

The only investigation that should be needed is whether the the guy tried to burglar your home.

Peh said:
You can't just kill someone because he entered your home. He has to be a thread to your life i.e. trying to kill you, only then in self defense of killing someone by protecting your or the life of others is being justified.

Why not? Maybe that's what the law says in some places, but that doesn't make it right. He took the risk, he gets the consequences.

An investigation is to find out the truth, and from that determine whether a crime is commited.

Let's look at some other possible scenarios:

- Home owner tricks or coerces someone into his home and stabs him to death, claims burglary.
- burglar enters home because they are threatened by another to do so. Home owner finds intruder and chases them out of the house, killing them as they are leaving. This kind of thing happens all the time, using someone vulnerable to do your dirty work when the risk is too great for yourself.
- someone enters your home under immediate threat from something (perhaps they have been attacked but manage to escape and flee to the nearest home in order to find help) home owner kills on site because they suspect burglary.

Capital punishement for minor crimes, and carte blanche get out of jail free cards for killing when it's your property are not indicative of a good justice system, as someone else said in the thread it's rarely so black and white. You don't just suddenly get morals at 16.

Last edited by HigHurtenflurst - on 07 April 2018