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contestgamer on 06 April 2018
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SecondWar said:
contestgamer said:

Not really, most shoplifting has video evidence plus the physical evidence of stolen product. Some are wrongfully convicted now as well, but you still need a justice system. 

Again, I ask: Do you honestly believe that publicly chopping off the arms of shoplifters would not lead to ANY reduction of said crime? 

The problem is appeals, you could simply punish the majority of crimes which are cut and dry in a 30 day window. It would be enough to strike fear in the public.

So your argument is it doesn't matter if we get it wrong mutilate an innocent person and we already get it wrong sometimes now? That is not a good or reassuring arguement at all.

You may find it marginally decreases overall shoplifting incidents, but would probably increase incidents where excessive force is used. If more organised thieves know the consequence of getting caught is mutilation, they'd be more likely to murder witnesses and destroy video evidence (i.e. Arson) to cover their tracks. Maybe not a great trade off.

Also, I don't like the idea of governments sanctioning mutilation of its own citizens, criminals or not.

 Mistakes will always happen but with cloud storage cameras etc its less likely criminals will be able to sabotage in the future. If a case is cut and dry and we have forensic or video evidence of crime then we should go to the max punishment possible in public sphere and do it quickly. I believe it would be a deterrent. And again if I'm proven wrong then we change the system but the current one is not effective so I believe we should at least test alternatives like the Philippines are doing and get data.