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SuperNova on 06 April 2018
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HigHurtenflurst said:
SuperNova said:

I don't see why they arrested him on a murder charge. Isn't murder specifically premeditated?
If they charge him at all, it should be a manslaughter charge.
It doesn't seem that at any point the elderly man specifically planned to murder the burglar. Unless there's a piece of information withheld, like if the burglar had like 48 stabwounds or something.

Edit: Ah, I see the charges were drooped. Anything else would have been surprising.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder

I don't think it has to be premeditated as in planned well beforehand, but if you intend to kill someone and then do so it's murder, however long the time is from initial intent to the deed.

I think it might be either: a) the papers sensationalising things for effect. The police have to question him to find out what happened, and because he is held by the police the best story to sell is "man arrested on murder charge for defending himself"
or b) if someone is killed it is automatically "arrested on murder charge" until it can be proved otherwise, they don't leave them free to skip the country while they try to determine what happened.

I know, that's what I was trying to say with the '48 stabwounds' thing. Basically if you stab someone to stop them from hurting you, that's not neccessarily with intent to kill. Unless there was eregeous force used it would be hard to prove intent to kill in that situation as well. Seeing that the injured burglar in this case apparently got as far as out on the street before he collapsed, the elderly man was probably not too intent on actually killing him. That's how it read to me at least.

But yeah, everything you said about the arrest makes sense. Thanks!

 

Edit: Also, jeez this thread escalated quickly. Accoring to Contestgamer, instead of being a productive taxpaying member of society I should be an invalid, cared for by my family right now, that is if I survived the public and improptu dismemberment of my arms at age three and five respectively.

Yes, I've shoplifted before. The one at age three was an honest mistake, since I thought my mom had payed for the 3$ heart shaped plastic sunglasses in kid size that I had put on and not taken off when we walked out of the store. The one at age five was the concious theft of a 1$ bubblegum that made me feel so bad that I never did anything of the like again. And that includes succumbing to peer pressure, for the most part.

The people at the tax office were very happy when I came to register my business btw. They like people who actively try to pay taxes.

Last edited by SuperNova - on 06 April 2018