Neither the UK or Europe have free speech. They have a token version. Normal speech doesn't need protection because it's accepted speech by people in general or by the authorities. Offensive or dissenting opinion needs protection from the majority or people in charge. The people in charge change therefore what's offensive or dissenting changes.
'Token Version'.
Look, I'm American, and I frankly prefer their version to ours. America has a problem with people being allowed to not only spread genuinely false information, like anti-vaccination and everything involving the conspiracy nonsense that gets Sandy Hook and other school shooting victim parent's harassed, but speech that is just disgusting. The Westboro Baptist Church, Charlottesville...
'Too Much of a Good thing' is a saying for a reason. Cancer is too many cells going about destructively. That is what American Free Speech is having a problem with, cancerous speech.
LurkerJ said:
Indeed. No disagreement there. However, I can make fun of Jesus all day and it will be just like any other day. If I do the same to Muhammad, his psychopathic lovers will throw a tantrum and try to shut me down one way or another.
It's not like I am a fan of Lauren, but the only reason what she did is considered hate speech is because a bunch of babies cried, and that's the problem with banning hate speech, you will mostly end up banning speech that offends a loud, but not necessarily reasonable, group of people, regardless of how offensive the content of the speech objectively is.
Those same people who were protesting her have no problems teach their kids that apostasy and being gay are punishable by death, but since those verses are called Quran and Hadith, we are asked to accept the fact that it is being taught everywhere in the UK. Indeed, some Christians are as cancerous but they're a vanishing breed in comparison, and we don't seem to care if we offend them or not, the same can not be said about Muslims proliferating all over Europe and receiving preferential treatment because they're a "minority".
Christians are hardly any better. Try the same things here you might with ones died in the wool as much as these Muslims, and frankly both are fairly small amounts. Of course there are more Christians so the small amount is larger.
'Proliferating'. Really? What are they to you, feral pigeons?
CrazyGamer2017 said:
Exactly. And this is what makes Islam a very dangerous cancer on the surface of the earth, their murderous intolerance. I won't defend religion in general but this one religion is particularly intolerant. Christianity was probably the same a few centuries back but with the evolution of western society, Christianity has changed, with the exception of some parts of the world like in the southern United States where you can still find Christian nuts...
The only thing I can do is hope that with the passing of time, years, generations, they too will exit their "dark age" of religion and live out their lives without making islam the very center of their universe but that will take a lot of time and there will be much more blood spilled in the name of their ignorant beliefs. But yeah, that's humanity for you.
As for that video, it's shocking to see how freedom of speech means so little in the UK when you disagree with islam. They might be very critic of Trump and I'm not saying they are all wrong about that but this lack of freedom of speech is the opposite extreme.
Most Muslims aren't as aggressive as people paint them. You have extremists, just like Christianity. People just advertise the Muslim ones more.
Cubedramirez said:
Free Speech run wild...
Thought Police... Why Europe is a pathetic shell of what she once was.
I'm American. Europe's a shell because the Empires have fallen and the East is having to rejoin the wider world after the iron curtain. Honestly I'd have more concerns with the Eastern Europeans than the Muslims for the future of Europe: Thanks to the Soviets they gained a fondness for radical right wing behaviors, and it is easier to spread Fascism among Europeans than Islam.
Cubedramirez said:
Confirmation Bias much?
Writing such a statement highlights the commentators total inability of self reflection to the point I am unsure whether or not it's purposely written to incite reactions.
I am not even a religious person and I had shake my head at that statement.
It's hardly just him. A lot of people can easily point that out, from political commenters to Linkara on Atop the Fourth Wall in his Holy Terror review. The Bible is filled with just as much aggressive commentary as the Qu'aran, if not more. It's just not 'Politically Correct' to point out the bible is nasty.
So very true! But what's funny is that people will never see the wrongs as it pertains to "their side". So much of the bible is contradictory and aggressive but people who are Christian look past it because it's their chosen cult. Religion is the most divisive thing on earth and they all out up a front of inclusion.
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