Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior

[dark_gh0st_b0y]

Soundwave said:

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

life and death is never outdated, unless science finds a way to immortality or proves Christianity is not real

I've looked beyond enough, I even got a degree in Science! :D (yes I'm serious)

in my view, true Christians are destined to live happier lives than atheists in better health of the spirit, I know I'm harsh, a simple example:

everyone has, or is going to, lose some close people at some point in life, only that Christians can bear the pain much easier, since their beloved is now in a much better place, no more pain, and is still looking over them in a spiritual way, until we meet again

but for atheists, the thought that we are all destined to become nothing but soil and memories must be very miserable, and makes the pain of loss much harder to withstand and get over

I wouldn't be surprised if immortality is that far off to be honest. Maybe 2-3 generations away. Genetic engineering, nano tech, gene modification, brain to computer interfacing are the first baby steps towards it just like the giant room sized computers of the 1950s/60s were the first steps towards the pocket sized super computers everyone has today. 

If you have two ugly people (equally ugly) and one decides to accept they're ugly while the other one decides to believe they're beautiful, it wouldn't surprise me if the one who has chosen to deny reality would be happier. That doesn't make them good looking though, lol. One's POV can determine one's happiness, we know that, that doesn't mean the POV is necessarily correct. 

"Western countries" are happier because they generally have higher standards of living from scientific/technological/medical progress and less violent upheaval recently. But even that is a fairly recent development, Europe was probably the most violent place on earth for several hundred years culminating with World War II which almost obliterated the continent. Post World War II is the only time its known relative peace and a technological society has sprung up, but in that era of "happiness" Europe has also become dramatically less religious. 

what you say could come is ''live extension'' or better "body modification - brain preservation'', matter will always be vulnerable, don't you know

beauty is just as subjective as reality, everyone lives in his own ''reality'', the point of life is happiness, not beauty or accepting whatever reality comes with the times

anything that makes you happy is real enough, same with Christianity, if you feel it, it must be real

it's not just the recent years, Europe has always had some of the higher standards of living from scientific/technological/medical progress because their faith allowed them to progress through the years and invest their time in things that could actually make other's lives better and happier

wars are just the making of a few power-thirsty, brainless individuals who manipulate the weak souls, leading them to self-destruction, they are not as relevant as you think, Africa had the fewest wars and China the most, yet the Christian countries are much happier

I wouldn't say ''dramatically'' but yeah, watch Christian numbers drop while suicides and murder attacks are already getting more and more frequent, personal psychologists and psychotherapists will be swimming in gold, talk about the cure of the spirit, in my view happiness will start to drop, wait until the cycle comes around and Christianity will be the new fashion

regarding war, Christian prophesies from 30 years ago say that while Western countries are moving away from Christianity, WW3 is inevitable, and every detail so far is sadly, spot-on...

contestgamer said:

Peh said:

That's a harsh generalization.

If you say modern, can I say outdated?

"too immersed in their life to see beyond", now that's a funny statement.

How far beyond did you looked in other direction than the one you are looking at right now(christianity)?

 

It's not that I turned atheist for the lulz of it. There is some serious thought process behind it to abandon the view ones hold since birth. It's because you dig deeper and deeper and try to understand the concept of god and your very own existence that leds you away from one of thousands of made up answers on this god forsaken planet. Maybe there is one correct answer out there, but yours it is not. I've been there already.

Dude, how would you know what's the correct answer out there? There have been people who have "been there", where you are to use your phrase and ended up finding God. There have been people who have put a lot of thought in to every side of arguments. Putting thought in to something isn't an assurance that you're right, unless you believe you're the most brilliant man to ever walk the earth. I say this as an atheist myself.

the fact that he's been there before doesn't say much, I haven't always been there...

best guess is that the timing or guidance wasn't right, he probably hasn't been through enough at the time to understand, not mature enough, as Christianity says, no gain without pain

when it comes to religion, atheists are just looking to expose tiny flaws such to convince themselves that what their belief is the true one, they don't really try to see what the overall picture is about, at all

contestgamer said:

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

life and death is never outdated, unless science finds a way to immortality or proves Christianity is not real

I've looked beyond enough, I even got a degree in Science! :D (yes I'm serious)

in my view, true Christians are destined to live happier lives than atheists in better health of the spirit, I know I'm harsh, a simple example:

everyone has, or is going to, lose some close people at some point in life, only that Christians can bear the pain much easier, since their beloved is now in a much better place, no more pain, and is still looking over them in a spiritual way, until we meet again

but for atheists, the thought that we are all destined to become nothing but soil and memories must be very miserable, and makes the pain of loss much harder to withstand and get over

This is stupid. The idea of an afterlife is what would make me miserable, to live in eternity sounds like hell . Especially wondering if your loved one made it to Heave, hell or the purgatory. Everything has two perspectives. A lot of atheists view death as peace, like going to bed at night and sleeping, but never to wake up again. You can enjoy life and accept that it ends at the same time.

'live in eternity sounds like hell''
oh god

''Especially wondering if your loved one made it to Heave, hell or the purgatory.Everything has two perspectives.''
well your perspective sounds really selfish, you prefer the thought that your loved one is gone forever, so that you won't have to wonder where he is? omg, god bless

your loved one has the chance to repent for his/her sins, unless your loved one is some kind of blood-thirsty murderer, thief, satanist, rapist... there's not much to worry about

''A lot of atheists view death as peace'' no wonder suicides and suiciders are on the rise in the US...

Last edited by dark_gh0st_b0y - on 06 April 2018