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the-pi-guy said:
o_O.Q said:

"Sure, just like rightism encourages white men to play the victim."

that's not true though, can you give an example?

You literally gave them to me.  

"women you have been oppressed by men for centuries so you need to tear down the patriarchy"

"blacks you have been oppressed by centuries by white people so you need to fear and hate them" (never mind that white people fought to abolish slavery)

None of these are actually happening. They are just scary things to make white men think that the left hates them.  

o_O.Q said:

""The atheist left is trying to take away your Christianity.""

i could only see this being valid if christianity was exclusively for white men... but its not... so what's your point?

"The left wants Islam to be taught in schools, and supports terrorism!""

these women are feminists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbJONNIU0Cc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ev66F8U4L8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jWSDyJiIXg

i mean i could go on here but feminist advocacy for islam is pretty apparent to anyone who has been paying attention

What exactly is your point?  

Religious freedom is essential in America.  Not all Muslims are anti-feminist.  Any decent person should protect the rights of all others to practice whatever religion they want, as long as they aren't harming others.  Which is exactly what is happening here.

o_O.Q said:

 

i suppose the second component is whether its a violent religion or not

...well that seems pretty clear to me...

 

Cool.  We can just find a few people and ask them questions to know how 1.5 billion people feel about something.  

That's not humans work.  Humans aren't masses or groups.  They are individuals. 

So, your video doesn't matter.  

What's your favorite color?  Cool, now I know that all conservative's favorite color is that one.  Right?  

There are 1.5 billion individuals that are Muslim.  They are going to have 1.5 billion different opinions about every single thing.  

o_O.Q said:

"White people don't need to be feared and hated.  There are some on the left that sometimes go to those extremes, but they are a vocal minority."

i've been imagining the mainstream media calling for blacks to be wary of white policeman for all those weeks then

Not white policemen.  Many of the people who shot a black man were also black men.  The whole point isn't to be scared of white people.  It's about calling out that police in the US should have better procedures so they don't shoot an unarmed mentally handicapped person.  

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/fred-grimm/article91170367.html

Other than that, yes you have been imagining it, because that's not what's happening.  

o_O.Q said:

"This one is just wrong.  Transgenderism has nothing to do with not liking biology"

"There are people that are biologically XY that don't have a penis, and people that are biologically XX that do. "

there are people who have eight legs but we define a human as having 2 legs right?

a classification does not mean there will be no outliers

is your argument therefore that we should simply throw away all classifications since outliers happen across just about everything?

or is the more sensible path to acknowledge that in order to have classification a generalisation must be made?

"Biology is vastly more complicated than XY=penis, and XX=vagina. "

well i think when you consider that 99.92% of the time this is the case then we can safely make that assumption 

just like we can safely assume that human means 2 legs

That dude isn't a biologist.  Just because he says something crazy doesn't mean that's a normally held belief.  

Just because there's a "normal", doesn't mean there's no room for people who don't fit that category.  Just because Jim only has 1 leg doesn't mean he's not human.  

Let's not build ramps, because we should just worry about the 99.92% of the time where people have 2 legs.  Sounds good.  

Aeolus451 said:

That's not the sum of his argument on that, though. That's a complicated topic that can't be boiled down to one sentence. He's talked about it at length in many instances. He's worth watching in general even if you were turned off by a few vids.

Nothing I've seen of him seems worth watching.  I don't really watch much of anything, anyway.  

 

You literally gave them to me.  

None of these are actually happening. They are just scary things to make white men think that the left hates them.  

"women you have been oppressed by men for centuries so you need to tear down the patriarchy"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/07/technology-sexist-society-even-worse-women-potential

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/out-the-darkness/201208/why-men-oppress-women

http://nomas.org/understanding-patriarchy-and-mens-power/

 

""blacks you have been oppressed by centuries by white people so you need to fear and hate them""

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/11/chokehold-police-black-men-paul-butler-race-america

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/2017-is-the-year-of-black-fear_us_594c2393e4b0f078efd97fed

http://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2017/10/16/do-efforts-to-help-minorities-actually-produce-any-positive-results

 

"What exactly is your point?  "

my point was that leftist advocacy for islam is common and that islam does appear to be interpreted in a way that motivates violence more than other religions

 

"They are individuals.

There are 1.5 billion individuals that are Muslim.  They are going to have 1.5 billion different opinions about every single thing.  "

but what unites them is their religion which is far less splintered than something like christianity

 

"Not white policemen.  Many of the people who shot a black man were also black men."

i'm aware of that but the media has been pushing the idea that its been largely white men oppressing black men unfairly

which to some degree i think may be valid, but its been overblown and facts like the one you posted here are being glossed over

 

"That dude isn't a biologist.  Just because he says something crazy doesn't mean that's a normally held belief.  "

supposedly he's a historian of biology which is doubtful but regardless my point was that he's an educator for transgender issues and his ideas are not uncommon for people in his field

 

"Just because there's a "normal", doesn't mean there's no room for people who don't fit that category.  Just because Jim only has 1 leg doesn't mean he's not human.  "

completely true but we don't use outliers to define the whole though and that's my point