GOWTLOZ said:
taus90 said:
people in india have been buying console from grey market for ages, it has been the only avenue to buy gaming console since PS1, the only company even dared to enter indian market before 2000 was sega with segamega drive.
and about my prices I have bought them thats why i m saying, its not up for debate, all these consoles are imported from Dubai or hongkong, Hongkong ones are cheaper compared to Dubai ones... which costs around 16k to 17k so the final price is 21k, and i know ton of people who buy from grey market and even sony has realized this, hence they are supporting the grey market console which in return encourages the customer to buy from grey market coz at the end of the day its a sale for them no matter where you purchase it from them, thats why they are not pushing PS4 like they are in other countries, they are just focused on increasing the user base and psn revenue, doesnt matter how they come.
and yes there are sheep who are lazy enough with parents credit card who prefer buying online rather than getting a good deal online, also the price you quoted of the consoles all those come bundled with 2 or three games and gazzilion different taxes. hence the offset.
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I know there are many savvy consumers here who buy consoles from grey markets but even if there are a few of them they are still a very small part of the population. Most consumers don't want to deal with this and many don't know about such markets. Buying consoles in other countries, I wonder what that has to do with Sony's support of customers here. Its bad and they don't try to expand here by bringing some great deals like they do in the major gaming countries.
DonFerrari said:
Valve doesn't even make their own games, they are more often than not exploiting the publishers and devs (same game that is released for PS4 or X1 for 60 USD get a Steam deal very early on and sell for 20 USD). So unless Valve is doing something illegal to avoid taxes that Sony and MS pay, they are exploiting other companies to get their margin, there isn't magic.
Games in Brazil for example. When the conversion rate was 4:1 most publishers/dealers, etc raised the price of the game from R$ 250 to R$300-350, while Sony kept all the games they published at R$ 200 (so 50 USD with tax included), now that the conversion is 3,2:1 the other companies lowered to RS250 and Sony just kept R$200.
If Sony or any other publisher were selling physical copies (that have no geographical lock) for 30USD on India to help improve your market, there would be a lot of grey export to other areas and they would lose money.
India isn't Brazil, but I doubt that in average they are less intelligent or informed, and with google they can easily find what they want... but if you say they buy what they see, I have a bridge to sell to them.
Politicians are pocketing it.
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There are publishers like Ubisoft, Konami and Square Enix that sell physical copies of PC games for just $20. ROTTR released here on PC at $18. Consumers see the discrepancy in price of games on PC and consoles and there is anecdotal evidence of people moving to PC gaming from console gaming because of that difference. Now I don't know if these physical copies are region locked but it makes PC gaming seem more appealing.
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In every single market PC games cost much less than console, even more because of piracy and Steam deals...
Also the marginal cost of SW is neglible compared to Console, you are just complaining about economic issues that you haven't really looked at and just assume companies just want to screw customers.
Just a small tip, companies like profits, so if they thought they could profit more by lowering the price they would, if they aren't doing is either because sales won't compensate the lost margin or they already don't have much margin.
