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I'd like an answer from the op, leo-j and any others who still hold out hope for PS3 domination...

At what point will you concede that the PS3 will not have PS2/PS1 success or come in 1st place?

If it's Jan '10 and the PS3 is down by 35 million would that be enough? Or would you still be complaining that the Wii is $100 cheaper so it isn't over until the PS3 drops again?

Just give me some rough numbers so I can quantify how desperate you are for a comeback.