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contestgamer on 31 March 2018
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Hiku said:
Azuren said:

1. Laura damaged her own image. Hogg brought that to the attention of her sponsors.
But I was looking at this from a different perspective. If the bully beating you up in school is sponsored by Nike and has nice Nike shoes that lets him catch up to you quicker, I think it serves him right to have those taken away from him.

As for her "admitting defeat", that was a rather self serving tweet. Rather than admitting that what she did was wrong, it was basically "I'm sorry you were offended by what I said" and "let me promote my show".
Both her attack and her apology were rather disingenuous. Yes, she called him 'very poised' on her show (which isn't that much of a compliment, but ok) before this movement started. And she wants props for that. How dumb does she think people are? Maybe that sort of reply flies with her general audience, but you don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out why the only example she could think of where she complimented Hogg was before the movement began. Or that she's promoting her show in a supposed apology.

2. I know that no one says 'rightist'. The point was to have your arguments speak for themselves without generalizing opinions or positions unnecessarily with labels like that, in a discussion that's not about that. Was it an inherently conservative thing of Laura to out of the blue personally attack Hogg like that? No, it's an asshole thing to do.

3. Sponsors have withdrawn their advertisements time and time again without any influential person rallying people like this. That's not the only criteria for this to occur. I gave you an example with O'Riley.  Likewise, there have been many times where companies don't withdraw their sponsorship, in spite of public outcry. For a particularly relevant example, take the NRA boycott aimed at certain companies. Some of them withdrew their support, others like Amazon didn't.
Like I said, it was both because Laura did something stupid that brands don't want to be associated with, and because Hogg helped bring that attention to them.

4. If witnesses call the police on a murderer, I'm not going to solely blame the witnesses for him getting locked up.

5. Which is why I worded it as 'unprovoked' in her case.

6. I believe what you're referring to is what he said either on the day of, or the day after, his friends were gunned down in masses by a maniac and he luckily survived. Maybe you think it's fair game to criticize someone over what they say right after a situation like that, but I think most people would let that slide given the circumstances of the trauma. Especially if he doesn't repeat it again in the following months.
And I believe he specifically said that about the politicians who he believes vote against gun legislation because of NRA money. Not 'anyone who doesn't agree with him'. Unless I missed something.

7. She makes it really easy for herself to be criticized when her 'apology' was a self serving promotion for her show. And not a sincere one either.

6. There's no excuses. And he believes anyone that votes against gun legislation is bought by NRA money.