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Alara317 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

At this point it is cliche to say that Final Fantasy VII is overrated.  On every gaming message forum I've ever been on, the number of people who say FF VII is overrated has always far outnumbered apologists for the game.  This even includes people like yourself who authentically like the game and still feel it is overrated.  The question I've been asking is, "Where are all of the people overrating it?"

About 15 or so years ago, you would always have a couple of guys on a forum with handles like Sephiroth69z or IAMCLOUDSTRIFE!!!11111.  Then everyone else, even fans of the game, would think, "Man these guys are really over selling it."  The result is that tons of people think the game is overrated while a tiny, and vocal, minority are actually overrating it.

I dunno, I defend it because I do think it's a great game, and I'm replaying it and still enjoying it, but it's not the best game ever. The graphics are pretty ugly, the gameplay is super simplistic, Sephiroth is trying WAY too hard to be cool, and there are a lot of problems with the story concerning the two main characters (Cloud and Sephiroth). 

That said, the rest of the storytelling and writing is well above average. It was a game way ahead of its time in many respects, and I have to commend it for that. But like I said, it gets a lot of undue praise for simply being the first of its kind in many respects, same as Ocarina of Time.

Yeah, I can agree with that.  Both FF7 and Ocarina came out about the same time, and both are often treated as the first in the series, even though neither clearly is.  I have heard that one reason FF7 and Ocarina get so much attention is that they both came out at about the same time that the internet was becoming popular.  Since they were both popular games when people started using the internet, they are treated as the first in the series.

One thing I don't understand about Ocarina though is that it doesn't get the same level of hate against it as FF7.  I have yet to play it, so I guess I will have to try it out first.  But FF7 gets both a lot of love and a lot of hate.  Ocarina just gets a lot of love.  Not sure why that is.