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thismeintiel on 10 March 2018
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Shadow1980 said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:

We are on a different market now. Time has changed. Xbox is a strong brand now. PS strongest competitor. 
We have the COD games now, Assassin's creed and Battlefield. Imagined the next box releasing with those 3. 
And your last bit imagined the new Xbox releasing with all those things you mentioned and with a headstart. Do you think MS will not be aggressive knowing that they don't have any competition? Maybe you are underestimating the marketing power of MS and do you think MS didn't learn it's lesson from Xbone? If Sony gave them that advantage then they are just giving the MS a free ride for the whole year with no competition and building it's fanbase. 

and Do you think the COD fanbase will switch to PS5 if it is release a year after? You are underestimating the effect of that game and the peer pressure from that fanbase. 
Do you think if PS5 launch MS will not use the Price drop strategy for it's xbox to steal thunder for PS5? 
IMO Sony will not give any sort of advantage to MS. They learn their lesson with the PS3 and to some extend PS4. 

"We are on a different market now"? If you're going to invent new "rules of sales" by saying that release timing matters now when it never did in any prior generation, I'm going to need some good evidence justifying it. The burden of proof is on you to show that release timing is now an important factor.

As a counterargument, if the Xbox 4 releases too early, it may not be sufficiently powerful compared to the X1X. Even if it is, it may not be as powerful as the PS5, especially if MS goes for a $400 price point and Sony goes for a $500 price point. Furthermore, CoD may be big, but it's not as big as it used to be, plus whatever CoD game is first released for the Xbox 4, it will be a cross-gen game, and thus unlikely to be pushing the Xbox 4's hardware much. While it may have slightly better textures and/or run at a higher resolution, the difference may not be sufficient to make it such a superior port that CoD players on PS4 will start to abandon PlayStation to make the jump to the Xbox 4.

Finally, the PS3 didn't suffer because it released a year after the 360. It suffered because "FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE U.S. DOLLARS!" The 360 had a massive price advantage right out of the gate. The 20GB 360 "Pro" was $100 cheaper than the comparable PS3 SKU for a full year after the PS3 launched. By time the PS3 had been cut to $400, the 360 Pro had been reduced to $350. And the PS3 wouldn't get reduced to $300 until a full year after the 360 Pro had been reduced to that price. It wasn't until Aug. 2009 that the PS3 finally got to price parity with the 360, and by that point it was too late to take the lead in the U.S. Once the 360 S was released in June 2010, the PS3 didn't stand a chance (though the PS3 still dominated in Europe and Japan).

More importantly MS made sure to keep the entry point $200 lower than the PS3's for about half of the gen.  The 360 models launched for $299 and $399, while the PS3 launched at $499 and $599. So, even the upper models were $200 apart. By the time PS3 was able to be dropped to $399, MS answered with a $199 SKU in less than a year. 

It would be like if the PS4 launched at $399, while XBO launched at $599.  Unfortunately for MS, the Xbox brand isn't strong enough to withstand that kind of blow, and it would have destroyed it completely. 

Last edited by thismeintiel - on 10 March 2018