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thismeintiel on 10 March 2018
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KBG29 said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:

hmmm. okay.  I don't know if you are ignoring it on purpose but there are people here saying 2020 is a good launch for the PS because PS4 is still selling well. Ignoring that MS can launch a new box in 2019. I am not arguing about the release date. I am arguing that MS can release it on 2019 and I showed some evidence that 3rd party devs are visiting MS and this late in this gen. It's very likely Capcom and Sega are visting not because of Xbone but rather the next box.  So one last time. It's not the release date is what I am arguing but the reason.

So again if MS decided to release the new box next year Sony will follow suit and it doesn't matter if PS4 is still selling well  or it doesn't matter if it's this year or the next or 2020 (which a lot of people here s hoping for) because IMO Sony will not allow MS to have a 1 year head start again.

We are on a different market now. Time has changed. Xbox is a strong brand now. PS strongest competitor. 
We have the COD games now, Assassin's creed and Battlefield. Imagined the next box releasing with those 3. 
And your last bit imagined the new Xbox releasing with all those things you mentioned and with a headstart. Do you think MS will not be aggressive knowing that they don't have any competition? Maybe you are underestimating the marketing power of MS and do you think MS didn't learn it's lesson from Xbone? If Sony gave them that advantage then they are just giving the MS a free ride for the whole year with no competition and building it's fanbase. 

and Do you think the COD fanbase will switch to PS5 if it is release a year after? You are underestimating the effect of that game and the peer pressure from that fanbase. 
Do you think if PS5 launch MS will not use the Price drop strategy for it's xbox to steal thunder for PS5? 
IMO Sony will not give any sort of advantage to MS. They learn their lesson with the PS3 and to some extend PS4. 

I don't think Sony has anything to worry about if Microsoft rushes out XBOX TWO in 2019. Do you think developers are really going to make games that take advantage of XBT if it is the only console? I don't even think devs will make Games for PS5/XBT for a year or two or three after both have released. It will be another few years of cross platform titles just like we saw with this generation. PS4 and XBO will very likely continue to be heavily supported for the first few years, with direct ports of PS5 and XBT titles.

The only thing that I think would have any effect on swaying people to a year early XBT would be 1st party, and with what we have seen from MS this gen I don't see any way that they will have a 1st party lineup that is strong enough to shift the focus.

Also, launching a year late with a popular business model would be a totally different ball game than the PS3. If MS rushes their box out on 12nm chips with a HDD, and Sony wait a year and get 7nm+ chip and NVMe at the same price, PS5 could blow XBT away.

It is a tough game to play right now. Both for Sony trying to maintain and expand dominance, and for Microsoft trying to take back marketshare. I think MS has the much tougher posistion, but Sony could once again stubmle over their own feet. One thing for sure, this has been, and will continue to be exciting times in console hardware. I am enjoying every minute of it.

Exactly. If MS launches early, they are going to piss off everyone who bought a X. We also have seen that MS isn't treating Xbox like a main priority anymore. There isn't going to be massive 1st party output next gen. At least nothing compared to Sony's.  And you can guarantee that Sony is going to take advantage of the year later launch, with better specs at the same price. Add in B/C with PS4, with Pro enhancements, and you can bet a lot of PS4 gamers are going to stick with PS. Really, history has proven that all Sony has to do is not screw up, like they did with the PS3 launch, and they win big. PS is just that big of a brand WW.

Having said that, I expect Sony is aiming for a late 2019 launch, with Xbox again scrambling to match that date, or they launch 6-12 months later. 2019 just makes the most sense. 6 years, which is a good length for a gen. 25th Anniversary of the PS brand (limited edition 25th anniversary SKU at launch, possibly with PS1 coloring, and the S in PS5 looks like a backwards 2.) Pro, their mid-gen console, released 3 years after the PS4, and PS5 would launch 3 years after it. I think we're looking at a $399-$449 price, with a slightly customized Ryzen/Vega APU that's roughly 2x the power of the X. If so, the 5, but even more so the Pro, is going to be an absolute beast.