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DonFerrari said:

And people are disagreeing with MS looking to release X2 in 2019Q1 because that would make no sense, since it wouldn't have much more power than X1X, wouldn't be cheap and would be to close to X1X launch... they would just burn themselves without any good reason... even more after they said they are aiming to a no-gen future.

hmmm. okay.  I don't know if you are ignoring it on purpose but there are people here saying 2020 is a good launch for the PS because PS4 is still selling well. Ignoring that MS can launch a new box in 2019. I am not arguing about the release date. I am arguing that MS can release it on 2019 and I showed some evidence that 3rd party devs are visiting MS and this late in this gen. It's very likely Capcom and Sega are visting not because of Xbone but rather the next box.  So one last time. It's not the release date is what I am arguing but the reason.

So again if MS decided to release the new box next year Sony will follow suit and it doesn't matter if PS4 is still selling well  or it doesn't matter if it's this year or the next or 2020 (which a lot of people here s hoping for) because IMO Sony will not allow MS to have a 1 year head start again.

Shadow1980 said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:

Uhm no. People are arguing that 2019 is very soon and pointing out that PS4 is selling well and launching PS4 in 2019 is not smart bec. It will cut off PS4 sales.

I am pointing out that if The new xbox will release in 2019 and PS5 will release in 2020. Sony cannot afford for the xbox to have a 1 year head start again.  Even if PS 4 is still selling well. Sony will not let a xbo360 situation happened again. 360 was able to gain foothold and become successful that made it hard for Sony last gen. 

So to make it short. If MS will release the new xbox next year Sony will follow asap. Or even if ms will release it this year the same goes for sony as well.

I don't think having a head start really matters that much.

The Genesis had a head start over the SNES. It sold terribly in the 1989-1990 period, not really starting to take off until 1991, and even then the SNES still won. Not really Sega's fault, but still.

The PS1 had a head start over the N64, but sold terribly until FFVII was released, then it started selling extremely well. In fact, in the U.S., the N64 sold almost as much in the 14 weeks it was available in 1996 as the PS1 did that whole year, and by June 1997 had narrowed the LTD sales gap to less than 300k units lifetime. If the N64 had been CD-based and had gotten Final Fantasy, it would have handily defeated the PS1.

The PS2 had a head start over the GameCube and Xbox, but it won not because of its head start but because it was following the PS1's massive success, plus it had a far larger games library and a competitive price. Even if the GC & Xbox released at the same time as the PS2, they still would have been destroyed.

The 360 had a head start, but I doubt it helped much because it didn't start off too well. Rather it won in the U.S. because the PS3 was so expensive at launch, with the 360 having a price advantage until Aug. 2009. And even with the head start it was selling dreadfully in Europe its first couple of years and could never catch up with the PS3, and Japan still largely rejected it.

Pricing, games, and marketing mean a lot more than release timing does. In fact, release timing probably doesn't really matter much at all, given the data available.

We are on a different market now. Time has changed. Xbox is a strong brand now. PS strongest competitor. 
We have the COD games now, Assassin's creed and Battlefield. Imagined the next box releasing with those 3. 
And your last bit imagined the new Xbox releasing with all those things you mentioned and with a headstart. Do you think MS will not be aggressive knowing that they don't have any competition? Maybe you are underestimating the marketing power of MS and do you think MS didn't learn it's lesson from Xbone? If Sony gave them that advantage then they are just giving the MS a free ride for the whole year with no competition and building it's fanbase. 

and Do you think the COD fanbase will switch to PS5 if it is release a year after? You are underestimating the effect of that game and the peer pressure from that fanbase. 
Do you think if PS5 launch MS will not use the Price drop strategy for it's xbox to steal thunder for PS5? 
IMO Sony will not give any sort of advantage to MS. They learn their lesson with the PS3 and to some extend PS4.