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NoCtiS_NoX said:
DonFerrari said: 

So you think that MS is going to launch X2 this year after like 6 months of X1X for Sony to be hard pressed to not give MS a 1 year headstart?

Uhm no. People are arguing that 2019 is very soon and pointing out that PS4 is selling well and launching PS4 in 2019 is not smart bec. It will cut off PS4 sales.

I am pointing out that if The new xbox will release in 2019 and PS5 will release in 2020. Sony cannot afford for the xbox to have a 1 year head start again.  Even if PS 4 is still selling well. Sony will not let a xbo360 situation happened again. 360 was able to gain foothold and become successful that made it hard for Sony last gen. 

So to make it short. If MS will release the new xbox next year Sony will follow asap. Or even if ms will release it this year the same goes for sony as well.

Ok, so you think MS will release X2 about 18 months after X1X? That will certainly gain a lot of love from the userbase. Also considering they will announce it like 6 months before launch, they will have put a lot of money in R&D and marketing for X1X, killed a lot of sales of X1 by talking about X1X for more than 12 months before launch... all of that to sell like 5M X1X? Do you think MS is crazy?

Teeqoz said:
DonFerrari said:

Globally in USA you mean right?

Because Globally even with all the fuckups PS3 still outsold X360. and Won all other gens.

Maybe you missed the "in quite a few regards". I wasn't referring to absolute sales (though there is substantial evidence to suggest the PS3 is overtracked on VGC).

There is also substantial evidence that X360 and X1 are overtracked, so?

You certainly didn't make any clear point that you weren't referencing to total sales when you said your text, seems like you are tacking back.

So let we say it again, when Sony made all the mistakes and Xbox had mostly done right, PS edged a small margin victory, when Xbox made mistakes (and corrected the 2 main ones a lot faster than sony, being high price and always online) and Sony did things right they are getting 2:1 to 3:1 victory which isn't bigger because of English speaking territories, Live and FPS.

KBG29 said:
I would be extreamly disappointed if PS5 came out 12 months from now. There is no justifiable tech to deliver a next gen experience right now, and even if 7nm is available for the CPU/GPU, Memory and Storage are to expensive to take advantage of the processing.

A dev kit for PS5 is very likely to be in the hands of 1st parties and close 3rd parties, as games will need to be started now to hit a late 2020 or 2021 launch. These dev kits woukd likely be using early 7nm test chips and only be a target for where they expect to get with PS5. Current Ryzen and Vega based chips are not enough of a leap over PS4, so even a Vega 64 based system would not be a good representation. When 7nm GPUs come out 13.5TFLOPs will be mid to low end GPU power.

For 1st party they don't even need to send devkits to start project, they saying the ballpark of the what they are planning is enough... and 3rd parties because of PC and also experience they develop nextgen sw based on abstract projection of where the consoles will be at. So usually 1 year (or even 6 months) before launch the devkit being delivered isn't uncommon and they use it to touch up and refine the abstract into what is defined.



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