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Nymeria on 07 March 2018
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DonFerrari said:
Nymeria said:

1 - Simply put 1:1 we pay more for everything. Something as simple as a hospital gown or an IV is far more expensive in the US than other countries. We do this because we have a weaker bargaining position.

Which is why I want money out of politics. I want the state to answer to the people, not the powerful.

2 - Legal opioids lead to spikes in heroine use in communities.  We didn't have the level of heroine use a decade ago, pretty clear correlation.  I stated we focus way too much on illegal cannabis, making it legal would shift focus to cocaine or meth which create real problems. I also stated rehabilitation over punishment because our failure means we should change tactics as continuing to do so and expecting different results is insanity.

1 - I certainly believe that you pay more. It may be from weaker bargain position or from government regulation, taxes, excess of demand, warranted demand, protection for doctors who can request excessive wages, insurance for bad practice due to crazy sues, etc.

But as I said. If one could opt out to not pay taxes that cover the public health if he so decides that would already make me a happy kupo.

2 - You are not picking the point. I'm not talking about the health problems due to drugs. I'm saying that if USA can't prevent cannabis, heroine, cocaine and the other dozen of illegal drugs to enter the country or to be produced locally how do you think it would be able to control guns entering or being sold illegally?

The question is if something being legal or illegal is if it makes a society better.  Cocaine was legal, and it caused real problems so we decided even if people used it illegally it was better to fight it than accept it.  This was tried was alcohol and failed miserably.  It has been an ongoing issue with cannabis and I think it being illegal has done more harm than good.

With guns the question is if buying an AR-15 is illegal or not makes the society better.  We see these shootings and people suggest either to leave them legal, make them illegal, or make acquiring them harder.  Would people still get a hold of them even if they were illegal? Yes, but by that line of thinking laws are useless so why do we bother with coercion tactics at all?  It's that the ill those illegal guns would cause would be less than the current situation.  Australia still has issues, but since it became illegal to get something like an AR-15 mass shootings have dropped.  If they felt the cost was too great or didn't work why haven't they proposed going back to laws they had before?