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scrapking said:

Medisti said:

Kevin Smith is a morbidly obese man who has been overweight and has a famously terrible diet of fried chicken, so that's a rather extreme example, not to mention both his parents have a history of similar heart problems and he still didn't believe his doctors when they told him he had a 100% blockage. I doubt there were no symptoms. He's lived his entire life in denial.

Regardless, his problem was through excess. To suggest every person who has meat in their diet is going to die of a heart attack is absurd. Maybe if meat is 90% of their diet or all they eat is fried foods.

You're right, it would be silly to suggest everyone who eats meat is going to die of a heart attack.  I'm glad I didn't suggest it.  Since neither you nor I suggested it, it doesn't appear to be relevant to the discussion.

I merely said, and the evidence bears this out, that eating meat makes you more likely to get a heart attack, or suffer a stroke, or get diabetes, or get cancer.  I'd add to that the fact that the evidence suggests people who eat meat/dairy/eggs get more neurological conditions (many cases of "Alzheimers" are being re-diagnosed as cholesterol plaque building up in the brain).  We also have now demonstrated that lots of erectile dysfunction is cholesterol plaque building up in the penile artery.

As for Kevin Smith, he had recently started to take his health more seriously and had lost 85 pounds prior to the heart attack.  But sure, let's set him aside, and look at the Adventist and Adventist II studies.  These compared healthy omnivores, vs. healthy vegetarians, vs. healthy vegans.  The participants in the Adventist studies tend to be healthy and active and tend towards eating whole foods.  In these studies, the healthy vegans had the lowest rates of disease, and the least serious diseases.

Just wanted you to know, man. I stopped and had a burger in your honor earlier. Tasty cow. It told me your are solely responsible, too. For murdering the cow. The tasty, dead cow.