Delta and United join list of companies to cut ties with the NRA - maybe this truly is the end of gun rights in the US?

[o_O.Q]

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Nem said:

Ryan... honestly... we have no gun rights in europe. Do you think we have no freedom? (aquisition is highly regulated)

Why do some americans think this way? That is utterly ridiculous. Are you planning a revolution and that's why you want guns? Why are you defending Anarchy?

It's so backwards that i don't even know what to say. How can people not see that? Civilians don't need guns. You are living in a developed country. You are safe. All the easy to get guns do is make it easy for people to kill each other everytime they get angry at something. It's not civilised. It's not the wild west anymore.

Do you really need to sacrifice a bunch of children to the slaughter every year just to keep your illusion that with your gun you can go take down the government? This is utter lunacy!

Where's the like button when you really need one? Obrigado for pointing this out.

o_O.Q said:

"Guns don’t make you free, nor do they protect your freedom"

the war for independence?

the civil war?

Where both fought by professional soldiers, not civilians.

During the independence war, the militias actually almost made the whole thing fail, because they refused to fight in a different state than the one they where living in, and the states where relying on them at first as unlike the Army raised by the Congress, they didn't need any pay and thus didn't pester them all the time to raise money for the army (at the time, Congress had to kindly ask for money from the states, which where none too happy sending anything to Congress as it meant less money for them). Only once General Washington pointed out that the army was on the breaking point and would start looting because they didn't get any pay in over half a year did they finally agreed to pay for the army, probably also because the militias where so ineffective when they actually fought that the army was badly needed to save the states.

Oh, and the militias got armed by their respective states, because having guns at the time was extremely expensive (think about a couple 100k in today's dollars) and only few of them had any before the war. Hence where the 2nd right actually comes from - not having to give them back to the states.

o_O.Q said:

"Civilians don't need guns. You are living in a developed country. You are safe."

except for all those times in history when people needed guns to fight oppression

its infantile to assume that such a situation will never occur again

"Do you really need to sacrifice a bunch of children to the slaughter every year"

killing and death are a fact of reality and that will be the case whether guns are completely eradicated from society or not

"just to keep your illusion that with your gun you can go take down the government?"

this is how america as an independent country was formed to begin with... wtf are you talking about?

Look above for what you got wrong there.

Besides, you can hardly compare 250 years ago with how it would play out nowadays. Have fun with your peashooters against tanks, IFVs, MRLs, helicopters, drones and jets. The government would actually have to try very very hard to loose any civil war

do you have a source to verify that civilians did not fight in neither the independence war nor the civil war?