Half A Billion Fewer Animals Are Being Killed Every Year Since 2007 As People Eat Less Meat

[DonFerrari]

Eagle367 said:
Vegans and vegetarians seriously think it's unethical to kill animals for food? And killing [lants is a ok because vegans and vegetarians decided they are lesser beings. I am opposed to cruelty and senseless killing of any being whether plant animal insect or even bacteria. I hate when people kill spiders and Anta needlessly. But did not one ever teach them about the circle of life? They seriously need to watch lion king. Call it God's plan or evolution and selection but for better or worse we are omnivores. The truth of the matter is vegans don't get all the essential proteins in the right quantity unless they eat a lot of soy or something like that or take supplemens. They even have to supplement vitamin b12 because plants don't have bacteria that make them. And supplement fat soluble vitamins as well. There's nothing wrong with that but claiming moral high ground is wrong I think. The only valid point they have is helping the environment and frankly it's up in the air if that actually does help or not because it's not simple addition you have to account for a lot of factors and I have not read up on a lot studies that prove that it's better. If science shows that it is then at least they have something but otherwise this whole holier than thou attitude is throughly unwarranted and completely ridiculous

Recently I have seem an essay by a vegan showing that the environmental impact of replacing cow/chicken with vegetables was worse because of the great use of land and agrotoxic (because vegans tend to ignore that their organic vegetable diet is still impossible for high quantity to feed the full globe).

bonzobanana said:
Meat substitutes could become cheaper than real meat in the future and I can see meat being in decline long term. I try to reduce meat consumption and must admit have great admiration for vegans and vegetarians. Those that do it for moral reasons I feel are a higher form of life than the rest of us low life b**t**ds. Occasionally I even come across a meal which I prefer the vegetarian option. Here in the UK there is a chain of pubs called wetherspoons and I prefer their vegetarian breakfast to their standard breakfast for example. I actually prefer chicken flavoured crisps that are vegetarian (fake chicken flavour) to those that have real chicken flavouring (roast chicken flavouring).

I have had for a lifetime a full "vegetarian" breakfast as this is the culture in brazil... a bread, butter/margarine, milk or juice.