Feminists outrage at walk on/Grid girls, F1 & Darts models ban. Your thoughts?

[DonFerrari]

Teeqoz said:

DonFerrari said:

The comics DC and Marvel made with black Spiderman, lesbian black Iron Man, etc where all huge commercial failures... Ghostbusters as well... and there are more examples if you go there look of people requesting "representation" on the comics that were met with low sales because the ones requesting weren't really willing to buy, just to cause ruckus.

You have to scratch it more then. You advised people that want F1 with grid girls to create their own F1, so I said that you could use the same suggestion to create a F1 without grid girls instead of requesting they to be removed as was the case on this.

So you think the root on this issue is the F1 listening the vocal minority and pandering to them and not that those vocal minorities are doing the same thing on about every single place they can think of?

I don't follow F1 for over 5 years and probably won't follow for a lot longer so if they burn down I wouldn't care much.

Miles Morales as Spiderman wasn't a huge commercial failure. In fact it's still going, and the character will even be the basis of the Into the Spiderverse animated movie. While I don't see the problem with stuff like Miles Morales, but yes, if you are pushing diversity for the sole sake of diversity then that's just silly.

Since you agree that diversity shoehorning is bad then we already have an agreement that meeting vocal minority can lead to bad outcomes.

Ghostbusters was a commercial failure because it wasn't a very good movie - not because of pandering. That responsibiliy lies on the shoulders of Sony's movie studios not exactly being the best in the business.

A lot of the backlash on Ghost-buster came from they pandering to SJW and them out-bursting against their own fanbase not accepting their choices.

DonFerrari said: 

You have to scratch it more then. You advised people that want F1 with grid girls to create their own F1, so I said that you could use the same suggestion to create a F1 without grid girls instead of requesting they to be removed as was the case on this.

Uhm. Well, that may be what you meant, but it wasn't what you actually wrote. You wrote this:

DonFerrari said: 

Take your own advise on creating a new F1 championship with grid girls and deliver to those groups for they to create their own without instead of messing around where they have no stakes. 

But if you meant without grid girls, then yes, people could absolutely do that, but there is no need for them to do so because F1 changed their policy. If F1 changes it back, then that option becomes relevant again. Who knows, maybe your outrage because of this will get F1 to change their mind and reinstate grid girls! Then people who don't want grid girls will have to go elsewhere if it bothers them enough.

You just read the first part of the sentence then. Read the full sentence.

DonFerrari said: 

So you think the root on this issue is the F1 listening the vocal minority and pandering to them and not that those vocal minorities are doing the same thing on about every single place they can think of?

Well, if according to you, feminists have this huge influence and are taking over everything, clearly your current approach to stopping that isn't working very well. I'm just suggesting that you should evaluate wether your current way of dealing with it is effective or not. Maybe you should lobby those in charge, instead of whining about other people lobbying those in charge.

But that's just my suggestion! You can express your opinion however you see fit

The pestering they have been doing (not only feminist, but the whole representative movements) have been very effective on mandating a lot of TV ads to adhere, companies to direct content, etc.

No need to lobby, I'm in favor of individuality, so if the content doesn't meet my needs I just don't consume. There is a lot of legacy content for this to never be an issue.