The Russian Debate

[LurkerJ]

Goatseye said:

LurkerJ said:

No one "hacked" the election, everyone interfered or tried to "sway" it though, that's undeniable.

Giant corporates (who are only looking after themselves) & foreign governments effects on policies of the USA is what matters in the end, the means by which those effects can be achieved are endless. Be it helping a certain a candidate during elections, working with congressmen and lobbyists, or funding news channels to spread propagandas and fake news.

You can call Trump and his children crooked all you want, I am not a fan of him or the ones before him. Just because I find the narrative against Russia ridiculous and biased, it doesn't mean I am defending Trump.

Not to mention, the USA proudly interferes in everyone's business everywhere, Hillary would've taken that interference to the next level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmvl1zCOrU0, you can't possibly defend Hillary's claim to the throne and be mad the Russians successfully swayed the elections to the candidate of their choice in the same breath.

That's a bunch of nothing you said. You like Trump that's fine. But don't come here with crooked narrative when the most crooked person to ever run for presidential elections, won it in 2016.

It's  ridiculous that some of you folks are saying that US citizens cannot push back against election meddling from foreign actors on our own turf. The push for transparency and accountability of US foreign policies is being pushed by the same people that want Russian meddling investigated.

Where are you from by the way? Brazil?

Obama or Hillary want to tame US foreign policies? Are you for real?