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Intrinsic said:
Errorist76 said:

One thing one has to consider though...Even in 2-3 years not even 50% of people will own a 4K TV or will have the possibility to get one, additionally to their shiny new 4K console.

Are 12-15 Tflops really needed for a highly detailed 4K/30 performance?! 

I still think 10-12 seems possible for PS5, but higher Tflops would be more needed for VR than for 4K imho.

4k TV adoption is happenning a lot faster, and not even because people want one, but because manufacturers arent even making 1080p sets most times anymore. So if you are buying a 55" tv today, you are kinda getting a 4k set by default. Secondly, consoles have to be future proofed. 

And as i have said before.... as long as the PS5/XB2 is made with chips on a 7nm process (as opposed to the 14nm in the PS4pro/XB1x) having at least double the GPU is a given. So the minimum to expect from the next gen consoles is a 12TF GPU. And no one should expect to see the next gen consoles until whenever 7nm chips start hitting the market. If that doesn't happen till 2021; we won't see the consoles till 2021/2022....

I also feel we could have an even far better GPU in these consoles if they go with a split architecture... and I have lots of reasons to believe this is what will happen. Especially with the PS5. To put it in perspective APU in PS4 with a 20CU GPU cost around $130. About the same or hell say $150 for a APU with 40CU in the PS4pro on a smaller node fab process. A split system with a $40 CPU and a $140 GPU on a 7nm fab process will probably have a GPU with at least 130CU pushing around 16-18TF

4K adoption is happening, yet caring for 4K content, not so much. I prefer playing SotC at 60fps, 1080p60 with HDR is fantastic, couldn't care less about it not being in 4K. I play GT Sport in 4K or on my old 1080p tv, the only difference I see is when I look at the far background on some of the tracks. 99% of the time, it doesn't matter. HDR makes the difference.

I really hope next gen will target 1080p60 with improved lighting to make the most out of HDR. Yet I'm sure next gen will all be about native 4K.