Otter said:
A_C_E said:
1. How is the outright banning of actions of women in the Grid/F1 payroll an encouraging endeavor? Taking away choices is not encouragement of due course and these ladies just lost their jobs because 3rd wave feminists care more about a small minority of peoples thought patterns than the reality of the situation that effect these women's paychecks.
2. A more fair culture? These industries are male dominated and these people just fired the ladies......
3. What code of conduct was broken?
4. Again, the representation of women, in this case women who also own businesses, was just quashed.
5. The market will decide whether that's possible or not. Stop telling people what they want. How many men are complaining about not being able to be models at an F1 event? None? Might as well fire the ladies because equal outcome of a ghost variable is just soooo important.
This isn't directed at you Otter, but the actions that led to this video just showcases how a bunch of Flakes can disrupt a perfectly suitable environment completely engrossed in choice. Those choices were just taken away by a group (feminists) who would be dangerous with power.
Edit - Just to clarify, it's not technically feminists hiring and firing, it's the organizations that have control of who they hire and fire. I shouldn't have said "because of feminists" when in fact it is because of the organizations. Recognition of this fact, however, does not deflect the approach of 3rd wave feminists and their train of thought on this matter, or other matters. Lets not pretend like people can't influence the actions of corporations.
Edit 2 - I actually would have taken the same approach as F1 in hiring kids instead of models, it just makes more sense.
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Because female representation should amount to more than eye candy and the same culture which doesn't care to address this encourages the piss poor treatement of woman who deal with daily street harrasment, inappropriate comments at the workplace, sexual harrasment in all stages of life from men who feel entitled, and complete abuses of power as seen in the Harvey Weinstein exposè. Its almost as if people are ignoring the fact we are a product of our environment and shaping our environment influences how the future generation grow and treat each other. If the market demands a return of the Grid girls I'm sure we'll see them in some form or another, I don't think they do...
And thats just one angle, they could want to make it more family friendly but I'll repeat my closing line again "it's about the culture you want the sport to represent and encourage that is far bigger and generational then the jobs they loose, but also less a tangible subject."
And its not even that I think that this is a must or believe it will definitely make a difference, but lets not over simply the thinking to crazy feminists ruining things.
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"Because female representation should amount to more than eye candy"
because you say so? i thought feminists were about letting women make their own choices?
what's the difference between this and a fundamentalist christian claiming that women need to be chaste and pure for marriage? sounds like the same shit to me
with all of the logical inconsistencies i just do not understand how a person can claim to be rational and back this nonsense, it is repeatedly demonstrated to be contradictory over and over and over and over again
