| Ka-pi96 said: Question: Why haven't any of them sued yet? I mean, it's pretty much a fact that they were fired because they're female isn't it? People wouldn't have had an issue if they were male. And I'm pretty sure firing somebody based on their sex is illegal. Plus isn't F1 replacing them with grid kids? I'm sure firing somebody based on their age and then getting somebody younger is illegal too... |
| SecondWar said: Honestly for me, I find them a bit distasteful as they don't anything to the sport and are just there for sex appeal. I can speak for darts, and tbh hadn't actually noticed them in F1 (mainly as I only tune in as the race starts) but in my dad's favourite sport Speedway, any televised race has 4 girls pimped out in flashy strips with excessive makeup and attention on their features. It just always felt cheesy. The F1 idea of kids as mascots feels more in tune with sporting development so I'd prefer to see that. |
Cobretti2 said:
In Australia they are going to use Grid Kids, kind of like they got the ball boys at the tennis. I hope they pay them something and not just use volunteers |
A_C_E said:
1. How is the outright banning of actions of women in the Grid/F1 payroll an encouraging endeavor? Taking away choices is not encouragement of due course and these ladies just lost their jobs because 3rd wave feminists care more about a small minority of peoples thought patterns than the reality of the situation that effect these women's paychecks. 2. A more fair culture? These industries are male dominated and these people just fired the ladies...... 3. What code of conduct was broken? 4. Again, the representation of women, in this case women who also own businesses, was just quashed. 5. The market will decide whether that's possible or not. Stop telling people what they want. How many men are complaining about not being able to be models at an F1 event? None? Might as well fire the ladies because equal outcome of a ghost variable is just soooo important. This isn't directed at you Otter, but the actions that led to this video just showcases how a bunch of Flakes can disrupt a perfectly suitable environment completely engrossed in choice. Those choices were just taken away by a group (feminists) who would be dangerous with power. Edit - Just to clarify, it's not technically feminists hiring and firing, it's the organizations that have control of who they hire and fire. I shouldn't have said "because of feminists" when in fact it is because of the organizations. Recognition of this fact, however, does not deflect the approach of 3rd wave feminists and their train of thought on this matter, or other matters. Lets not pretend like people can't influence the actions of corporations. Edit 2 - I actually would have taken the same approach as F1 in hiring kids instead of models, it just makes more sense. |
The grid kids that F1 will be using are actual junior competitors in the sport, and will chosen by the national sporting authorities for each race, so I understand.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42950040
On the subject of the grid girls themselves, I sympathise to an extent - it's one less choice that's open to them, and those are high profile jobs that they're losing. However, it's clear from the video in the OP that they do these jobs as an aside to their main careers.
I'd find it hard to choose giving the grid girls their 'choice' back, if it meant denying competitors in the junior racing series the opportunity to be involved in an F1 race in some way.
Last edited by Hedra42 - on 18 February 2018
