Mr Puggsly said:
Well the X1 was about $199 after about 3 years during the holiday. I think X1X for $249-299 during the holiday with a redesign of 2020 is reasonable. Eitherway, I think its important MS tries to blur generation and make X1 somehow part of their 9th gen userbase. Even if that means making all exclusives X1 compatible throughout the 9th gen. |
The Xbox One is not an accurate representation of what the Xbox One X will become.
It's an Apples to Oranges comparison.
The Xbox One on release didn't even have impressive hardware, it was conservative, it was cheap.
The Xbox One X has an expensive and for a console, advanced cooler. That doesn't come cheap.
The Xbox One X has more Ram chips (A component that is increasing in price) than the Xbox One ever had.
The Xbox One X has a wider memory bus that requires more board traces and thus PCB layers.
It's not a simple case of building the SoC at a smaller fabrication process and selling the console at a cheaper price, there is so much more to the Xbox One X that will keep it's price higher than the Xbox One.
Besides... In 2020 the Xbox One S will still be on the market as a budget offering, with game bundles and larger hard drives poking fun at the higher price points.
Doesn't make sense to have the Xbox One X erode on those price points, it needs it's higher price point to increase the average selling price of every Xbox console sold, thus allowing for heavier discounting on the Xbox One S to shift more overall units.
| Slap&Ride said:
The system memory theory stands. The PS1 & PS2 did not have unified memory. The Video Ram is like GPU memory in PC. The data is doubled. And the PS4 with its 256MB of DDR3... I know that You know that it is not relevant and only for system background staff(Netflix;). Oh and of course lets not forget the 4MB of cache of the BluRay Drive;) |
The Playstation 3 didn't have unified memory either.
The Playstation 4 and Playstation 4 Pro didn't have unified memory either.
Every Playstation console has had split pools of Ram.
But what you are asking people to do is ignore that to fit in with your own narrative? Give me a break.
Fact of the matter is... The Playstation 4 added extra DDR3 memory so that the OS/Background tasks weren't taking away Ram from the faster GDDR5 memory.
| Slap&Ride said: As i said I don't believe in 128GB, but the HBM2 is a standard that You omitted. The production of PS5 will start in 2,5 years and it's still time for it to blossom and be mass market ready. |
I did omit HBM2. But sure. Lets Omit it. My point still stands.
The Production of the Playstation 5 will start whenever Sony deems it necessary... And not when a random person on the Internet says it will.
| Slap&Ride said: 32GB is still better then 16GB especially that the X1X has 12GB and is priced for premium gamers and a small install base. |
Indeed.
But the Xbox One X isn't priced for premium gamers only because of it's DRAM capacity though.
| Mr Puggsly said: X1X has an unusual number for RAM. 12GB in total, 9GB for games. 24GB could be sufficient for 9th gen if 16GB is for games and maybe 8GB for OS features. Current gen is already doing impressive things with just 5GB. |
What's so unusual about it? It aligns well with the 384-bit memory bus and DRAM chip counts.
Props to Microsoft though for having a more efficient OS than Sony and thus negating the requirement of additional DDR3 to perform simple tasks.
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