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VGPolyglot said:
o_O.Q said:


"Maybe you don't live in a first world country but surprise, we do all of the things you listed here."


yeah i shouldn't have agreed with this entirely before that was my mistake, its just that these discussions have been so ridiculous that at some point it'd inevitable that i'd miss something anyway


using america as an example

in terms of healthcare have you missed the recent debates on that? (socialists have been advocating for socialised healthcare)

in terms of education i suppose you have a point there

in terms of putting everyone to work... that's not a policy america has (again socialists have been advocating for this)

gun control... again this not a policy (and again socialists have been advocating for this)

abortion... well yeah you have a point there

blaming all of the ills of society on the rich... well you know i'm sure you can see the pattern by now


"YOU equated social security with socialism when you listed Hitler's "socialist policies", somehow you didn't realise that most of those policies are also implemented in practically ever developed country today."

most countries have been going down a socialist path... and your point is? did i ever deny that? 

"Your definition of capitalism is a fantasy, it doesn't work like that in the real world, and it never did."

its ideal capitalism but yes it doesn't work like that because the social needs of the community exert some degree of control on how businesses operate and didn't say otherwise

as i said before what actually happens is that there is some compromise between both capitalism and socialism although many times thoughtout history things have tilted too far to the socialist end and resulted in situations like hitler's germany and soviet russia


"Are you in denial about Hitler privatizing the economy?"

how did hitler guarantee jobs for everyone in germany if the economy was privitised?


"Nice, which socialist literature did you read? Let us all know, I eagerly await to see."

i've studied the history of the jacobins and the illuminists all the way back to the knights templar... as i've said i'm sure i know more about the history of these ideas than you do but that's irrelevant

Which socialists advocate for gun control? Most don't as they see violent revolution as the only means of achieving revolution.

Also, I showed you that Germany didn't guarantee jobs for everyone, women and Jews were not guaranteed jobs.


"When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers. "


why were child care centers set up if women were not supposed to be working? can you explain that?

and yes of course the jews weren't given jobs because they were exterminated...


"Which socialists advocate for gun control? "


huh? so are you now going to claim its the right and conservatives advocating for gun control? if its not them then who?