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Leadified on 07 February 2018
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o_O.Q said:
Leadified said:

Ah, good old "not real capitalism". There's a special irony of someone like yourself using a tactic that the left is accused of using in regards to countries like the USSR and China. Such a thing doesn't exist.

Here's a meme which sums up your argument perfectly:

 

Using your logic, Mr. Dawkins. That means we're all socialists, sure wonder what all those socialists are complaining about if we're all socialist, hm... How about you put down your dictionary and read some socialist literature, maybe you'll learn a bit about what socialists believe. Capitalism is not an ideology, it's a mode of production. Of course it means something, you don't align with someone that you completely disagree with lmao.

Are you new to politics or something? Hard to believe someone can be as misinformed as you, especially when you've been in this thread for a while.

"Ah, good old "not real capitalism"."

with regards to what? be specific because honestly i'm lost now

we went from talking about hitler's socialist policies (which you have not addressed btw) to talking about... well honestly i'm lost now

 

"Using your logic, Mr. Dawkins. That means we're all socialists"

that what? americans are all socialists? what are you talking about? please state clearly what i've posted that means we're all socialists

 

" Capitalism is not an ideology, it's a mode of production."

when did i claim that its an ideology? this what i stated about capitalism

"capitalism on the other hand is about leaving people to run their business with minimal or no government intervention"

 

" Of course it means something, you don't align with someone that you completely disagree with lmao."

i'm going to assume this is about your laim that hitler was allied with right wingers

...ok so what about his many socialist policies?

which is more important in determining his stance? his actions and policies or who he claims to be allies with?

something i'm really curious about btw is are you in denial that him seizing various private businesses is a socialist measure?

 

"How about you put down your dictionary and read some socialist literature, maybe you'll learn a bit about what socialists believe."

i have... i've gone all the way back to the origins of the word "liberal" which no one talks about now lol and i'm sure you don't know... since if you did you wouldn't be advocating for this ideology but this a digression are you giving up on talking about hitler's socialist policies?

 

is this like some kind of cop out now or something? lol if so its amusing thank you 

You're hilarious, dude. I am greatly amused by your posts.

First go back and read my post, I already debunked your post: Yes and HOT DOGS are also made out of real dogs! Maybe you don't live in a first world country but surprise, we do all of the things you listed here.

YOU equated social security with socialism when you listed Hitler's "socialist policies", somehow you didn't realise that most of those policies are also implemented in practically ever developed country today. Whoops! I thought you were trying to debunk socialism here?

Your definition of capitalism is a fantasy, it doesn't work like that in the real world, and it never did.

Are you in denial about Hitler privatizing the economy? If you read the link you would know that the property used to be public, hence PRIVATIZATION therefore your point is moot.

Nice, which socialist literature did you read? Let us all know, I eagerly await to see.


So let's review. You replied to Jaicee and used Nazi Germany as an example of socialism gone wrong. I countered it, then you shot back by listing social security measures the Nazis did, which I stated is used by other countries, which then you approved of (surprisingly), so I turned your argument on you to conclude that all who use these measures must be socialist, and now you're confused.

You're confused because you've effectively set fire to your own argument here, so now if you don't want to accept the logical conclusion of your own argument. You need to go back to my original post.

Last edited by Leadified - on 07 February 2018