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setsunatenshi on 07 February 2018
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DonFerrari said:
setsunatenshi said:

1- If the government doesn't "interfere" to correct anti-consumer behavior, then where exactly should they intervene? That's about the most useful thing the government can do. Make sure the consumer doesn't get abused by whichever companies. This is a regulated market.

2- Not really? It's up to the company to dictate the price they want to sell their goods. What they can't do is force me to buy them on shop A instead of shop B. The consumer should be free to pick which shop they want to spend their money (at least in the EU).

3- Government intervention absolutely has boundaries, that's why we have separation of powers between branches. Every law has to be confirmed constitutional before it goes into effect. That in itself is a boundary. Also, in a holistic way, the power comes back to the people when they are called to vote or speak their mind regarding any law they are against. I don't even understand what's your objection here.

4- Yes, in the EU we have a single market. And as a EU citizen I have the exact same right as any other citizen to buy a product from whatever other EU member state I wish. This is not even debatable. A company may create a specific website for a country, what they can't do is block users from other countries from it. It's really not as hard as you're making it out to be.

1 - It is no abuse for a store to determine the price it will sell or where it will sell.

2 - They are not forcing you to buy, they aren't allowing you to buy from another store. Which is different on essence. Since you can just refuse to buy at all.

3 - Yes sure, all the democracies work perfectly fine and all the laws are the will of its people, and they certainly know them all.

4 - I'm not making it any hard, why don't you take your time and also demand that a grocery store on Italy sell and ship a bread to germany?

Are we speaking the same language here??

1- As we agreed, the store can sell the product for whatever price it wishes. And it sells wherever it wants to sell. This regulation does nothing to negate that

2-"they aren't allowing you to buy from another store"They can't forbid a EU citizen to buy a product from a different EU country. That's the whole point of the regulation. Since you're from Brazil maybe this example will help. It would be like an online shop in Rio de Janeiro blocking users from Sao Paulo from purchasing products on their shop if they detect their IP address is from Sao Paulo.

3- Irrelevant point, no one here is talking about perfection, just the rule of law that we all agree to abide by in civilized societies. 

4- Another false equivalency. Are you doing it on purpose? The correct example would be a grocery store in Italy denying service to a german citizen when he tries to pay for the loaf of bread in their store.