What is "socialism"? - An attempt to clear up myths/misconceptions

[DonFerrari]

Leadified said:

DonFerrari said:

You mean governments that wanted to keep their power gone and intervened??? That doesn't really make capitalism to be at risk. I do not fear socialism, I do fear their tryouts that end up killing a lot of people in the process.

And since inequality is the biggest issue it certainly is better to live in Vietnam or Cuba than USA, and that is why we see daily migrants going from USA to both countries.

" That doesn't really make capitalism to be at risk." -> "You mean governments that wanted to keep their power gone and intervened???"
You just proved my point.

Revolution happens when society cannot take it anymore, violence becomes a viable solution. When you try to shove issues like inequality or exploitation under the rug like it's nothing, all it says to me is that capitalism can no longer solve these problems so their supporters choose to ignore them. 

Locknuts said:

Nah inequality isn't really a problem, so it doesn't really need to be talked about. All it does is stoke resentment and aid those who promote class warfare. As long as poverty is going down instead of up that's cool.

I'd say Zambia is a mistake on that list, but the rest seems pretty solid.

I disagree with your premise given the evidence I've provided so I don't think we can go further than this.

I don't know how to put it simpler to you that government instilling fear because they want to keep their power is totally different than capitalism being at risk... the socialist countries fall by themselves and capitalism was thriving at the same time... so it's hard to say it was at risk.

Sure, the violence was so needed that they had to kill their own followers to keep their power... but that was the socialist countries.