Xbox HW revenue up 14% from last year, overall up 8%. Xbox Live users reach 59 million

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Azzanation said:

eva01beserk said:

You are not understanding me. Im not arguing that the future might not be service baase, or full online service. Im telling you even if it where, it would stay afloat the same way consoles stay afloat. By having exclusive games that make you want that service over the competition. SO in the end anything you suggest that the future is, wont be possible if the xbox doesn't hold its player base interest with different games. If sony where to launch a steam competitor, they could stand a chance with their power house of games the would only be available on their platform. 

Investors are public, so yea they have to tell people how much they are making. ANd they started hiding the real numbers since the ps4 started dominating. Probaby investors wont care much cuz MS in general stays in the green.

Sony can do what MS is doing by launching there big 1st party games exclusive much like the Win10 Store however even with big major Exclusives that are not available on Steam doesnt affect Steam which is proof theres more to selling a product than 1st party games.

There are plenty of industry examples that 1st party isnt everything. Having games on the other hand and clever marketing is. 

Lets look back at the Dreamcast, Gamecube and WiiU.. a bunch of 1st party games couldnt win the industry over and the most successful selling console was the console with the most 3rd party games which were the PS1, PS2,  360 and PS4.

Lets look at Steam, tell me how many 1st party exclusive games does Valve make to keep the Steam committee happy? 

Just goes to show its not impossible to be successful without following the herd. 

It all comes down to how the company sees the best way to make money. 1st Party games can be expensive to make which means they have to sell millions just to break even on there budget (Tomb Raider being an example) where as you can be like Valve and make just as much money without lifting a finger in the 1st party catagory. I think MS sees that vision alot better than the other two.

I have already said this to you before as to why MS wont succed by ofering the same thing steam offers. You just dint understand it. And I have touched on a couple of reasons as to why but Ill go over them again for you.

1) Monopoly. STeam is the biggest by far. The entire comunity is already gather there and they are happy. They have plenty of users for muliplayer so why risk a new platform.

2) These platform offer very little. Like you said before, ps store offers almost the same, so does xbox live. Steam just has been around the longest so the back catalog is huge.

2.1) Why bother if competitors offer the same?

2.2) Even if it was easyer to navigate, or faster, I know xbox pc store I hear it is not, people wont care cuz they have to leearn something new for the         same results.

3) steam got to where it was by just being the only one. Nothing they offered was amazing in any way.

Its why I said MS cannot succeed in the pc space as long as they remain how they are. They offer nothing to want people to even venture into their store and browse. Sony on the other hand has a better chance, since they offer a lot of games that are high quality and are not available anywhere else. Not saying they would outright dominate, just saying they have a better chance than MS. MS has to offer something different, games might be the best choice I would say, but there are many things they can do, I don't know those things could be, which is why I will stick to games.