The Football Thread - 17/18 Season

[Wyrdness]

Ka-pi96 said:

Wyrdness said:

Sorry but watch the replay of the first one it's Lovren's fault he touches the ball which instantly means Kane is no longer offside, the second Lovren plays the ball the only way Kane could be called for offside was if he interfered with the play as it was heading to Lovren which he wasn't you can't be offside if the opposing team plays the ball.

You should also keep up to date with the laws of the game as linesman have been given powers to bring attention incidents that they see clearly that the referee may have missed and in the second penalty's case it was a foul, like it or not football has entered the age of more monitored refereeing with VAR and the new officiating powers. People have always complained about referees now this is the result VAR fully comes into play next season.

That's not how it works. A defender merely touching the ball doesn't make offside players onside. Besides, Kane's presence there was interfering as had he not been there Lovren wouldn't have had to attempt to clear the ball anyway and could have just let it run through to the goalie or out for a goal kick.

The only way it wouldn't have been offside is if Lovren had controlled the ball and then played it through to Kane. An unintentional deflection doesn't play him onside though.

As for the second one, if you think that's a foul then you're having a laugh mate. He never touched him. If they were using VAR there then it should have been a yellow card for diving, not a penalty. Providing the VAR actually wants to keep his job of course.

You might want to check up on things because that's how it does work Lovren attempted to play the ball that's why offside wasn't given

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^{"Firstly, I think it's a foul. Regarding the offside, there's no doubt Kane is initially in an offside position, but once Lovren looks to take ownership of the ball, which he tries to do without doubt, that begins a new phase of play.}

_{The discussion between linesman Eddie Smart and Moss centres around whether a) Lovren has played the ball, and b) whether Kane impacts the play, i.e. moves towards Lovren, and interferes with play, which he doesn't. Would managers know this? When referees go into clubs at pre-season, things like this are explained. The key thing here is: did Lovren clearly try to play the ball? And he did."}

The rules don't say the player has to control it, a deflection is when a ball hits a player with them unable to act not when they try to play the ball and miscontrol. VAR also wasn't used for the second one and VAR is not a person either.

Last edited by Wyrdness - on 05 February 2018