Xbox HW revenue up 14% from last year, overall up 8%. Xbox Live users reach 59 million

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Azzanation said:

eva01beserk said:

That's fine. But do you really believe subs are gonna make more money than software? I mean just buying 3 games in one year already makes more than all different subs combined. Maybe in an all digital future there will be a way to profit more on something other than games. But consoles where built around profiting on games, even at loosing something on hardware. You would have to change something dramatically to see games being secondary.

If its in the financial report I would assume that 10% it includes everything. Someone would have to verify. Im not gonna read it.

Reason i ask if Game Pass is included or not because if its not included in the software sales than theres your 10% difference right there and that number will only get bigger due to Game Pass popularity.

Yes they make more money off Digital over Physical. Game companies dont make much off selling a game for $60 because thats not $60 straight to there pockets. There is so many avenues that cash has to go through. Those live subs are 100% profits.

Who do we follow, one of the largest and most profitable software corporaions in the world? Or random VG Users? Ill listen to MS, i believe they know what makes them the most money.

COuld be I have no clue. Someone willing to read it would have to verify that.

We all know that selling a game digitally makes them more profit than retail. I doubt anyone can argue about that. But no matter how much the ratio of digital to physical is, selling more over all is more profitable. And no, live subs are not 100% profit. You have to incentivise costumers to get live subs. For that you have to offer something for free that otherwise you would be selling to them. Example, the 4 - 6 games platform holders offer every month for free. Its not new games obviously, most of the time is games people would not buy to begin with. And while it hurts less cuz is not a direct loss, is a potential loss that cuz maybe gamers would have bought it, so that's the same as a direct profit loss.

Why are you following anybody? what stakes could you possibly have in this race?  But granted you are right. MS knows whats best for them. But you have to also look at the rest of the world. Sony and nintendo are killing it in the same market doing what has always worked. Had MS any success like them, would they have started looking into alternatives?