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Locknuts said:
Machiavellian said:

Obama has absolutely nothing to do with this.  Exactly what was abused.  You are making an opinion from a political opinion piece and not all the facts.

Ok so the Clinton campaign paid for a 'Dossier' from a former British spy who got his information from some Russians (foreigners interfering in an election anyone?) with the intent to get dirt on the Trump campaign. Most of the information in the Dossier is unverifiable. This unverified Dossier is the cited as a critical piece of evidence in order to get a FISA application to spy on a US citizen by the name of Carter Page. It would have been impossible for a FISA application to be used to spy on a US citizen before Bush changed the law to allow it. Obama did nothing to change this and continued to allow it. The man at the top always bears some responsibility for the things that happen under his administration and I find it very hard to believe he had no idea this was going on. Carter Page at one time worked for the Trump campaign, this was the reason he was targeted.

Also, the memo is not an opinion piece. If the statements in it are false, there could be serious repercussions for the author. No government official is going to risk going to prison over this. I'd say it's factual.

While I do not disagree with the first half of that sentence I find it fairly easy to believe that Obama may have known little to nothing of this.  The POTUS has a good deal going on and I don't know how much attention he may have spent during that period on how his party / what his party was doing in the election.

 

I have not read what is available of the dossier but I believe from what I do know that the title of this thread should at best be "FISA/FBI Memo Released  - How The Obama Administration/DNC spied on the Trump campaign"

Again I know very little about this and the real bitch is that I did not like Obama but I find myself defending him at the moment.  Full disclosure I don't like Trump either, but then again I haven't liked a POTUS since I was a little kid and I sure ain't no spring chicken.