Im quoting here the whole two socialism you mention, just not quoting everything to save space.
So basically what you are saying is that there are actually two socialism, the ones implemented throughout 20th century are state socialism and the other is anarch-socialism or whatever the name.
The description of anarch-socialism (for the lack of a better word) remembers me a lot the concepts explained by Dominic Frisby in his book "Life after the state" which I agree on a lot of things, but consider a lot of them very utopic. But its a really good bock, although he defines himself as an anarchist-capitalist.
So when socialists mention that "real socialism never existed" they are referring to this anarch-socialism? Im really curious to know because, based on what I see on tv and newspapers and political speeches, what all socialists in latin america defend is state socialism.
Also if socialists actually really want is anarch-socialism (again for the the lack of a better word) why them all loves cuba and ussr so much which is the opposite of anarch socialism? Why would they praise it and try to transform other countries in it?
Btw the "poem" was really really good in explaining the differences, much better than all the philosophical speech that usually plagues discussions like this. But its totally utopic for me anyway.
