What is "socialism"? - An attempt to clear up myths/misconceptions

[DonFerrari]

ArchangelMadzz said:

DonFerrari said:

The governemtn isn't I agree. And the coercion of taking your money against your will to provide an inefficient service that you may not have required with exaggerated costs on the service and overhead... that is a big problem.

And yes as a minarquist Police, Army, Fire Department, roads, legal system and other very basic services I agree to have the government. All else that are necessary on occasion I don't see the need for government to take my money against my will.

You don't see the need for the government to take you money against your will? Then how will these things be paid for, volunteers?

You don't get to choose where your taxes go, if you live in America, the likelihood is, is that your literally tax money probably went to the killing of some brown people somewhere. 

If you don't want to pay taxes then live somewhere that doesn't have any.. oh wait. 

The irony of this from a 'Christian Nation'.

Nope, not volunteers. But offering only the services every single person need on constant basis, like infraestructure, army, police, judicial system, etc. Everything else makes very little sense for you to pay 30 years and not use.

Is this remark about killing brow people an attempt of some type of attack against USA?

I live in Brazil where my taxes go to the congressman pockets.

But I see it funny that you don't understand that the prerogative of taking out power and money from the government and returning it to the population. You only summarize it to keep paying the same amount but getting less in return.

VGPolyglot said:

DonFerrari said:

The governemtn isn't I agree. And the coercion of taking your money against your will to provide an inefficient service that you may not have required with exaggerated costs on the service and overhead... that is a big problem.

And yes as a minarquist Police, Army, Fire Department, roads, legal system and other very basic services I agree to have the government. All else that are necessary on occasion I don't see the need for government to take my money against my will.

If someone have about 1k Usd (or even less) in Brazil he can have sex with 20 girls, your point?

Nope man, considering 10k is the average for entry cars 0km, and that there are 40 years of used cars behind it, even though it is finite (as are the new cars) it isn't as scarce as it being impossible for someone to decide not to buy a new car, save the money and start his business.

Nope, your vision of exploitation view the owner taking the surplus from workers.

Instead of just saying nope, do you care to go into detail? I'll show you an example:

https://www.investopedia.com/news/ceotoworker-pay-ratio-just-276-one-last-year/

Do you think a CEO works as hard as 276 workers combined? If not, that means he's getting the surplus of their labour. If you think that, then there's no point even continuing this conversation.

 

Locknuts said:

Aeolus451 said:

@39:00 They talk about marxism. 😸

That's awesome. Around 47:00 where Peterson asks 'Would you rather be poor and 18 or rich and 80?' and goes on to explain that a large part of income inequality is that old people have had more time to make money than young people. Even though being old and wealthy is actually less desirable. He's a brilliant guy.

People want just the result and benefit not the effort that gone into it.