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VGPolyglot on 30 January 2018
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DonFerrari said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

The government isn't a private corporation.

The government has responsibility for the well-being of it's citizens. Unless you want to pay for the Police, fire service and the army, I don't see how that's different to their responsibility to provide a health service as part of that well-being.

The governemtn isn't I agree. And the coercion of taking your money against your will to provide an inefficient service that you may not have required with exaggerated costs on the service and overhead... that is a big problem.

And yes as a minarquist Police, Army, Fire Department, roads, legal system and other very basic services I agree to have the government. All else that are necessary on occasion I don't see the need for government to take my money against my will.

VGPolyglot said:

Yeah, I could also show examples on Pornhub of a guy having sex with 20 girls, that doesn't mean that everyone will be able to re-create that scenario. There are only a finite number of cars, if $19,000 is the average then the number of $500 cars would be very small in proportion to the number of cars out there. And capitalism requires reliance on others, the owners extract the surplus from the labour of their worker.

If someone have about 1k Usd (or even less) in Brazil he can have sex with 20 girls, your point?

Nope man, considering 10k is the average for entry cars 0km, and that there are 40 years of used cars behind it, even though it is finite (as are the new cars) it isn't as scarce as it being impossible for someone to decide not to buy a new car, save the money and start his business.

Nope, your vision of exploitation view the owner taking the surplus from workers.

Instead of just saying nope, do you care to go into detail? I'll show you an example:

https://www.investopedia.com/news/ceotoworker-pay-ratio-just-276-one-last-year/

Do you think a CEO works as hard as 276 workers combined? If not, that means he's getting the surplus of their labour. If you think that, then there's no point even continuing this conversation.