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Cubedramirez on 30 January 2018
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sc94597 said:
Cubedramirez said:
1. The purpose for government is to repeal illegitimate force against the nation and citizens. They are supposed to accomplish this through the legal system and our national defense forces.

2. Socialism robs the very spirit of the very citizens any society needs to thrive. Socialist believe everyone to be equal; utter nonsense. Unique men and women drive society, not the masses who are afraid to take risk or follow through with what is required to achieve success. They create a society where the only true motivation is held in political power.

3. Capitalism is the only true system that embraces the inner spirit of human beings and motivates otherwise lower tier people to achieve greatness. Let it be known the human experience has grown and achieved more in the time since the implementation of capitalism than any other point in our existence. And the people fighting against it at doing so with the tools provided by products and services that would never have existed with the animal spirits driving men and women to achieve personal gain; the foundation of capitalism.

1. And who decides which force is illegitimate? The state? How authoritarian. 

2. Strawman, socialists wish for everyone to be treated equally in certain contexts which is a very different thing from "believe everyone to be equal." I agree, "unique men and women drive society", but every person is a unique man or woman. This isn't some small group of rulers whom we should praise and follow. Your silly characterization of "masses" is real collectivism and based on irrational delusions of grandeur. 

3. How can you in one breath say individuals are unique and then proclaim an "inner spirit of human beings." In Stirner's words, "I am more than human; I am unique."  Human nature is a delusional spook. My nature is not your nature. Your nature is not my nature. Our goals and interests are not the same. This is a perfect example of Capitalist faux-individualism, when real individualists recognized the basis of capitalism as religious "humanism." It's ironic how in one breath you proclaim socialists to "believe everyone to be equal" and then in another speak of "the inner spirit of human beings." How religious and spooky. It'd be laughable if it weren't so dangerous (the basis of anti-social ideologies like fascism, absolutism, and ethnic-nationalism.) 

1. Representatives elected by their local community. Also  if you want to be a stickler about it, we can use the same foundation found in the Deceleration of Independence. Natures Law.

2. You either willfully take what was written out of context or I did a poor job in explaining this. Unique men and women drive society. These people have a drive, a passion, a desire to achieve and accomplish for their personal benefit. They take risk, discover opportunity and act on it. What makes them unique from the overall population is that the majority of human beings do not do this hence why society is advanced by the efforts of unique people. The point of the statement is that in a socialist society the natural drivers of human achievement are snuffed out among the population and are only found in government settings where the motivation is solely on how to maintain their political power. Or as is often the case how to take that power from those in charge to achieve political success; often by blood.

3. I can't even on this one. I am not sure if you're responding to my last point or throwing a fit. Socialism believes in equal results while Capitalism believes in equal opportunity. This is not even in question considering the repeated attempts of socialist governments that all travel down the same road. Mass poverty, destruction of individual rights, removal of property rights and a repugnant loss of human opportunity. 

I am a proud capitalist who believes the driving force for humanity, what will continue to further improve our overall condition, is not found in the halls of any government entity. Rather in the new ideas and efforts of free men and women looking to improve their personal condition by creating new products, services and concepts that we all will benefit from once they are brought to market.