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Leadified said:
o_O.Q said:

the way you have your argument framed gives the impression that there's some type of link between how the monarchies worked and how capitalism works 

when really its the opposite and the monarchies were socialist in nature

this is the point where someone then says "no no no  socialism is when the means of production are distributed across the people of a society"

to get this out of the way now... that's why we have government to distribute resources across a community

with regards to the monarchies the monarchs were the ones distributing the wealth

i just don't understand how people can have things that are so obvious completely confused

Redistribution =/= socialism.

Sorry but I'm not going to have a discussion with someone who believes that feudal monarchies were socialist. This is an educational thread so I recommend you check out the links in the OP and I recommend also reading sc94597's posts to get a better idea about what socialism is.

 

"Redistribution =/= socialism."

" I recommend also reading sc94597's posts to get a better idea about what socialism "

this is a direct quote

""Your employer reaps profits off your work which could've gone to you and your peers instead."... that's not redistribution?

 

"Sorry but I'm not going to have a discussion with someone who believes that feudal monarchies were socialist"

how do you plan to achieve the aims of socialism without a government or some centralised power? that's what i want to know, whenever i ask people run like if i'm waving a gun around

 

i also find it interesting how some of the people talking about socialism have also declared their support for communism while claiming that communism and socialism lie at opposite ends of the political spectrum