VGPolyglot said:
Exactly, they can't just take over the workplace and establish a cooperative because the factory/business owners would get the police to enforce their property rights. |
And what is in the way for they to create their own workplace and establish their cooperative? Because if cooperation is such a great tool, they together putting their money and starting their company should work right???? Or it can only work by taking by force what others made before?
Leadified said:
Social democrats will probably only consider criticism from the left since it's less inherently hostile than right wing ideologies. But social democrats have also wiped out the left in most countries and they themselves adopted the title of "socialist" so they've set themselves up in a trap. The irony is that like any other capitalist nation, a social democracy still needs to rely on the same sources of cheap labour from the third world and material, which also often time comes from the third world. While the people of Sweden may live well, their nation is still built upon the backs of people who will never enjoy it and thus the whole world cannot hope to live as well as those do in Sweden. You don't have a choice whether or not you want to participate in the exploitation because you need to pay taxes, you need clothes, you need technology and so on. I consider the socdems to be lucky for now since they've been blessed with stable societies and resources such as oil to fuel their welfare states but times are changing and they have no answers.
Nice, whatever helps you sleep at night. |
Nope man, the true irony comes from society advancing and well being progressing due to capitalism, which you can see and measure on the last 200 years, while what we have seen from the socialist experiments aren't pretty.
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