What is "socialism"? - An attempt to clear up myths/misconceptions

[DonFerrari]

VGPolyglot said:

DonFerrari said:

I'm yet to see a single police takeover against any cooperative in Brazil, and here being a place people condemn for being corrupt, violent, etc. They fail because they lack the competence to manage a company. Indeed like 90% of the companies in Brazil are very small (less than 10 employees) and they can still exist and do better than the "no owner" philosophy.

What do you mean by "see"? You may not have seen it directly, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/brazils-president-michel-temer-instructs-military-and-police-to-attack-landless-workers-movement-mst/5555258

And do you research all those cases and see that they aren't being arrested because they made a cooperative but because they were invading other people property and destroying public and private buildings?

MST inclusive is a movement that demands the government to take away property from others, give to them, also give money for they to produce and they them sell their lands to other and go back to the movement? Also their leaders have millionaires accounts.... you have took a very bad example.

Cubedramirez said:
State controlled means of production and capital generation through regulation and violation of property rights.

Also it leads to a lot of people dying.

I do find it funny how people mention Nordic countries yet have never been there or even accept the fact those countries actually refute the socialism tagline. People confuse a countries culture for their government. Very much market based Representative Democracy which works for a country that size. It would not work for a nation like the United States because you'd have to eliminate state rights in order to achieve that system.

That is because socialists need to pretend it can go right, so they'll say Nordics are socialist countries while all the comunist/socialist countries that had intense famine, death and abuse "weren't real socialism".