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Hiku said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes, sure.. that certainly explain the big fall of credibility of a lot of media outlet.

What you're describing is attributed to people who don't understand what fake news is. Much thanks to Trump.
Among those who do, their credibility hasn't changed in any significant way. It has always been widely questionable to begin with. But not for fabricating stories, because that hasn't been a big problem.
A recent study showed that 42% of Republican voters said they would refer to a story they believe is real to be "fake news" if the story portrays their party in a negative light. For Democrats this number is 17%. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2018/01/16/study-42-percent-of-republicans-believe-accurate-but-negative-stories-qualify-as-fake-news/?utm_term=.3f13ca556173

Essentially more than half of people are lying. This number should be 0% among members of both parties.
Fake news used to mean a news story that was made up, or made to look like it came from a legitimate news outlet.
But today, anything you don't like is labeled fake news. Or anything you question. Or a legitimate story that informs us of an unverified event.
An example is the news report that told us that Trump and Obama had been been briefed by intelligence agencies about the possibility of Russia having blackmail on Trump in the form of a tape of hookers peeing on a bed in his hotel room. But the intelligence agencies could not verify the existence of the tape. And the news report from from CNN made this very clear.
But because Trump insists that no such tape exists, he called that entire news report fake news, and slammed CNN. But their report was accurate. Trump and Obama were briefed on this matter, and John McCain confirmed that he received this report as well, and not knowing what to do with it he forwarded it to the FBI. After that it somehow leaked to the press.

So an accurate news report is called fake news by Trump, even though the article made it clear that the existence of the tape was never verified by the intelligence agencies. This was really when this whole "fake news" thing started blowing up, and it did so for the wrong reasons.

So now you have a lot of people calling every news story they don't like fake news, and other people sarcastically calling things fake news to make fun of the former group's use of the term.

And we have a lot of newspapers that give a lot of focus on the unverified part, making a narrative of it and a small print saying it isn't verified.

Sorry man, where I live there are at least 10 news a day trying to damage trump even thought we have bigger problems locally. Every single thing they can put against Trump they will, at the same time robbery and murder they will "protect the identity of the possible society victim".

So the "fake news" really isn't anymore just putting fake news (which usually are very evident) but the push media in general is putting to discredit the president, With like 90% of those news being irrelevant or "someone said so", which is ridiculous and take prime space from important reporting.

You talked about the seriour process of fact checking and source verification, sorry but that isn't really a priority anymore and even big outlets are doing a poor job on it and we have plethora examples on it... we even had one "fake news" that NK had doctored tapes of World Cup to declare internally that they were the champion... it was a so well done prank that all Brazilian newspaper put that as real (I believe some international done as well).

The dignity and credibility of newspaper and media outlets dropped when they started to compete against internet and rushing news, clickbaiting and etc.



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