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scrapking said:
foodfather said:
Everone knows its not as popular as the 360. Is there going to be one of these threads every month then?

I'm not sure that's true.  Given the huge number of dead 360s by this point in its lifespan (many people bought new slim 360 bundles to replace their old units, that were either finally out of even the three year warranty or because of a lack of trust in the replacement units people were getting), I'm not sure there aren't as many active/working Xbox One units as there were 360 units.  I see the PS4's greater popularity as a result of Sony having captured a good chunk of console sales that were going to the Wii this time last-gen, with the Xbox One holding steady.  It's hard to deny that the RRoD inflated 360 sales.  How many people this far in were still using their first-gen 360 units in the previous gen?  Almost no one.  Lots of people are still using first-gen Xbox One units.  That at least mitigates, if not entirely compensates for, the sales difference in unit numbers.  It's not a surprise to me that Xbox Live engagement is at record highs.  It's because most of the Xbox One units still work, something that couldn't be said for most of the Xbox 360 units last generation.

Sorry to burst your bubble but by what Yoshida said on the first years of PS4 there is a lot of ex-X360 users that bought PS4 and very little Wii (which had a demography that mostly didn't buy before Wii and didn't buy after Wii). So Xbox lost a lot of users, but their XBL held somewhat stable.

yvanjean said:
CGI-Quality said:

You still didn’t answer my question. Who shows Xbox’s numbers? Of course Amazon positions are guesses. That wasn’t up for debate. That’s what you and I are doing. Guessing. For Xbox One, that’s all you can do.

As for the bundles, they won’t be up 1.5m this year, regardless of those.

VGchartz and NPD hence why we're here .... ya it''s way too early to know what's going on. I'm waiting on January data... if XB1 is up year over year it's a good sign of what will happen. If the numbers are flat or lower Year to year it's extremely bad for XB1, I don't see how the numbers could be down. 

You are the one that mention Amazon .... people keep comparing Amazon but it's such a bad matrix to compare Ps4 to Xbox one... because you have all the Xbox one bundles vs Sony that only has a four normally ... 

Nope it isn't to early, we have 4 years of X1 data, we have 2 months of X1X data, we have 30 years of console data.... hardly any game move a lot of HW, there is like 1 or 2 games per gen that do it. And if PUBG is already at 4M and didn't moved much consoles on its first 2 months there is zero reason to think it will on the next 3.

You are setting yourself to disapointment by expecting sales to climb from 8 to 13M.

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."