| SuperNova said: |
"Oh boy. I seem to have royally pissed you off. It was honestly not my intention."
Uh not really, I don't think my comment sounds pissed off at all. It's ok.
"I think you should probably reread my comment as well, because you seem to have already had a conversation with me in your head and decided how it went."
What? I'm literally replying to your exact wording. This seems like a very lazy "it's actually the opposite way around!" logic, but whatever, I could be wrong, maybe you're right.
"No, aside from the thing I literally already said in my comment,"
Literally ALL my replies are of things you literally said, and they're not interpretations. Maybe over-explanations, but that's just because I don't want to get a reply of derivative arguments that I could nip in the butt before hand.
"I was not going to say any of those things because I'm not interested in childish fanwars"
Well, I mean, you are the one that said I was playing "good guy EA", which is a pretty childish fanwar simplification to make. But neither am I, so i'm glad we could agree.
"My 'naive' comment was in regards to 'bioware ruins their franchises', wich EA certainly had a hand in especially in Andromedas case. And yes, I was using hyperbole to accentuate the point, wich I'm sure you understood so no need to be so offended at it."
I'm not offended by it. See, this is the problem with internet arguments. People always deflect responsibility for claims by saying "it's just the internet, don't get offended". I'm not offended, I just think the statements are irritating in that they're dishonest. I said bioware ruins their franchises, sure, but every other line shows that I give credibility to EA when they fuck up. Because surely it's a toxic dynamic, but the developer is as fault as well as the publisher. Not offended, just slightly annoyed.
"You seemed to me to be sour on Bioware for some reason and excusing EA for being a bad publisher in favor of blaming them, when to me it is pretty clear that they've been pushed at least into their current situation by EA, when they were on a good track."
Well, that was a very odd interpretation to make right off the bat. Nothing in my comment even implies that. I like Bioware, although mostly just Dragon Age Origins, but still. I think you would either have to be really defensive of a company in order to make that kind of conclusion, or you'd have to be really fixated on one narrative. I don't know though, maybe it's just a genuine misunderstanding. I'm just talking about how the markets received their recent projects, not my own personal feelings on the projects. In fact, let me go out on a limb to say something that might "discredit" my argument : I haven't even played their recent games. Like you, I'm making a point based on market reception and the fact that they're the developers of those badly received games. I'm sure some people will say that instantly makes me an ar-tard or makes my argument wrong, I don't see why though, I'm clearly talking from a generalized perspective of the opinions of the market and I don't see why you could defend a game without having played it but can't criticize it using the same lack of experience. I'm not even saying Andromeda or DA2 or The Old Republic are definitively bad, maybe they're underrated masterpieces and I just need to play them. But from what the general public seems to think, they are pretty poor games and honestly after four strikes, I'm thinking it's a little more complicated than a two letter word explanation. Oh, I did play Mass Effect 3, though. That game was meh. Not bad but pretty mediocre.
"Look, I did not want to get into a fight, but you gave me an edgy comment and I answered in fashion, wich on reflection maybe I shouldn't have done. I'm honestly sorry if I somehow offended you that was not my intention. I was just honestly puzzled by your initial comment and its mode of delivery."
Oh I never considered it fighting, I considered it debating with a few too many personal conclusions made. Honestly though, my comment isn't edgy, at all. Like literally, I worded it just to make sure it seemed like genuine constructive speculation about the company. I even used open ended wording to make sure it didn't look like I was some asshole troll hating on Bioware( "But so much of Bioware's controversy are things that may or may not be the fault of the publisher. I have a very hard time believing that all of it, or even a majority of it, is EA's fault", and "It's open to interpretation") .
This makes me think that the only reason it was "edgy" was because it was an opinion not previously expressed. If the norm is to instantly blame the publishers for everything, than it must be "edgy" to "hate" on Bioware. No, i'm simply saying they have a part in their failure, arguably a pretty big part. I should say that I do think a lot of the fault or even most of it is on EA(I keep flopping on "majority" because we genuinely don't know and probably never will). But I'm not going to say it's just EA. Honestly, I never got into Bioware's franchises enough to have a genuine "grudge" against them anyways. If you want to see a disenfranchised fan who has a grudge against them, look up Rich Evans. lol.
This is why I tried not to argue for a few weeks. This site ... man ... it can never be simple 
