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OTBWY on 24 January 2018
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DonFerrari said:
OTBWY said:

The reason I think people with PS VR should get Skyrim is because there's very little else besides a handful of full games and a ton of fully priced tech demo's.

You don't have to take my word for it, but I did get some decent time playing Skyrim VR, because it really interested me. I love Skyrim so much that I wanted to have a go. But like I said, it is not a new experience for me. But besides that, even if I hadn't played it, it wouldn't affect the argument. The argument is still if Skyrim VR is a new experience.

I do own some VR systems (even GEAR VR that came with my S8), just not PSVR. I love VR, so I don't know where this argument comes from that I have anything against VR.

How in the world is that spin? It is Skyrim right? So it cannot by definition be a new experience since it is a different approach to an old experience. The follow up to that is that VR gives the new experience ( with tracking and motion control etc), but since many VR games already have this experience it makes the "new" moot. IF by your definition it IS a new experience, then the Switch version is ALSO a new way to play SKYRIM. It is that same argument that I disagree with.

I simply do not share anything like that with people I don't know. It is something that I only want to share with friends. If others share it on this site, then that's their choice. But even so, I wouldn't be able to show you anyway as you should already know why.

I don't remember any thread, but I do agree with the point that portability is a selling factor. The same way VR is a selling factor. People should buy both, PSVR owners moreso.

Who would buy a game in a genre they don't like due to a false notion that there isn't anything else to play? The attach ratio of game purchase on PSVR is reaching 6, so I would say it is very far from not having anything to play.

Nope, your argument was that Skyrim VR is not a new experience. The argument you countered with this was just that while Skrym on Switch is the same game played on the go the VR offers a new way to play SKYRIM... stop trying to make an argument of what wasn't argued.

So PSVR is a bad experience, but for some reason Gear VR from a cellphone is relevant because?

Again you are doing fallacy argument on it. It is a new way to play Skyrim not a new way to play games (you are the only one saying it), and sure you can argue that playing it on the go is a new way to play skyrim. But while playing skyrim on the go doesn't change anything at all about the game (or from when you play docked to when you play on the go the game change in any way?) while when you change the perspective, POV and how you interact with the world using VR you have a very different experience of Skyrim than you had on the regular view.

Do you lock all your accounts? Why not also lock your VGC account so no one that you don't know find you?

I'm going to ignore everything else because I finally got an actual response to the original argument.

Fallacy argument? First of all, you guys have been strawmanning the entire afternoon and now this? Please. Anyway, so finally you actually make an argument about the VR version, and you also compare it with the Switch version (which I already said is no new experience, on different). So my point is only focused on the VR version: Interacting in the world is something that Skyrim always had with free camera control and a pretty good control scheme. Making your hands move ingame is something that I have already seen before, it is however a different way of how you control your character in Skyrim and how you do combat. I could argue that the way you control the camera is very free and it's different, but it is just that, moving the camera.  I could move my camera in any direction before with the stick. Actually it could be limiting to people who play Skyrim in third person, but it is VR so I can understand the choice for 1st person only. Besides that there is no added content that is geared towards VR users. To close this argument, to me the experience wasn't new, just a different perspective in the world. And it was very enjoyable.