shio said:
Riachu said:
shio said:
Riachu said:
shio said:
'Best RPG' is a toss between Baldur's Gate 2 and Planescape: Torment, but I think BG2 edges it.
No JRPG even deserves to be in the top10. Seriously, some people should just 'grow up' already and play PC RPGs (best RPGs) |
You should grow up for being bias towards JRPGs. I played a couple a PC RPGs(Fable, Mass Effect, if those count). Fable was great and all but it just didn't live up to the massive hype. Mass Effect was an even bigger disappointment IMO. The story was great(from the 5 hours I played of it anyway) but horrible combat, technical bugs and unintuitive interface just completely ruined what was suppose to be a revolutionary game. That doesn't mean I will avoid PC RPGs completely though as I am looking forward to Fable 2 and Fallout 3(I don't want to hear from nostalgic Fallout fans that it will be crap)
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Fable and Mass Effect aren't even in my top20 RPGs. Fable was just an average RPG, and Mass Effect was good but nothing great(what was revolutionary about it?!). So yeah, you shouldn't base your opinions on those 2 games.
I grew up with JRPGs. I loved Final Fantasy and Wonder Boy, but when I got my second PC and started playing PC RPGs I just found a more deep, fulfilling experience in them. I play mostly for the stories, and PC RPGs are known to have the best stories in the genre. Planescape: Torment completely shatters any JRPG in that. Oh, and trust me, Fallout 3 will be just a dumbed-down experience from Fallout 1&2. |
I never played Fallout 1 or 2(give me a break, I am only 15). Bioshock was basically a dumbed down System Shock but people still loved it. Previews of Fallout 3 are in short saying that it will be the Bioshock of 2008. Fable 2 has a better chance of living up to its hype than Fable did since it is more modest
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Bioshock was dumbed-down in terms of not having much RPG mechanics, and having lifepods. That in itself in not sinful, though it did hurt the atmosphere.
But in Fallout 3 it is much more different. What Bethesda is doing in nothing more than complete destruction of the series. What Bethesda is doing is: - Removing all the mature themes such as: xenophoby, racism, sex, slavery, child-killing, prostitution, drug addiction. (Basically a 'Teen-Rated' Fallout) - Worsening the Dialogue scheme. That is the worst they could have done. Instead of the character having unique dialogue options based on your intelligence, knowledge and skill; now on Fallout 3 every character will have the EXACT SAME DIALOGUES, and the Intelligence only affects what's your success percentage on your dialogues, it doesn't changes the dialogues options. This means even if your char has the lowest intellect, the options will still be the same... For comparison, In Fallout 1&2 if your character had low intellect it could only grunt and growl to other people because you were a complete retarded. So much fun, some of the NPC's even took pity on you and gave you stuff, while most looked at you with contempt and didn't gave a crap about you for being retarded. You won't see this in Fallout 3. - Bethesda has lack of artistic and design talent. Which means the famous writing of Fallout 1&2 most likely won't be present in Fallout 3... that totally sucks. Not only that, Bethesda might give Fallout 3 the Oblivion treatment, and just make half-assed quests. Fallout is a series that's known for having unique content as a strong point: every quest in Fallout 1&2 is unique and awesome in it's own way, while Oblivion's quests are... crap. Bethesda is making 3 fatal flaws.... Fallout 3 may become a good game, but it won't be a good Fallout. What Betheda is doing is not dumbing-down.... it's complete destruction. sc94597 said:
shio said:
'Best RPG' is a toss between Baldur's Gate 2 and Planescape: Torment, but I think BG2 edges it.
No JRPG even deserves to be in the top10. Seriously, some people should just 'grow up' already and play PC RPGs (best RPGs) |
Sorry, but I get the filling that you are trying to shove your opinion in everybodies faces. Anyway have you ever played chrono trigger? It should at least be in your top ten. |
Chrono Trigger and FFVI are in my top20 (not top10), if that makes you happier. I never played extensively Earthbound, so I cannot say about that game. |
